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Binky
04-22-2006, 04:58 PM
BC: Grow op team tags wrong house

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EVAN SEAL THE LEADER
From left: Tina, Vanessa (nine months old) and
Armand Kucukgozen were suspected of having
a marijuana grow op in their house. An allegedly
high Hydro bill alerted authorities, but Armand
says power consumption at his Clayton-area
home is ‘average.’

By Kevin Diakiw
Staff Reporter
Apr 21 2006

A Clayton-area man with a Dobermann pinscher and a love for expensive vehicles has been tagged by Surrey’s new municipal grow op team.

However, Armand Kucukgozen doesn’t have a marijuana grow operation in his home, and he’s furious at being stereotyped.

Surrey Fire Chief Len Garis says his staff are now reviewing the issue.

On Tuesday, Kucukgozen’s home was hit by the Electrical Fire Safety Initiative team, which has attended 271 residences since its inception in March, 2005.

Out of that, 243 turned out to be electrical hazards, many of them likely grow operations.

The remaining 28 were either false leads or homes with secondary suites that had high power consumption.

Under the program, fire officials – acting on police tips – attend homes with extraordinarily high electrical consumption (typical of a grow op) and ask the resident to allow a city inspection of the home.

If no one is home, a request is left at the door to permit an inspection within 48 hours. Failure to comply results in power being shut off to the home.

“The program is in its infancy, and these evaluations are taken seriously,” Garis said Tuesday. “There are instances where there is some room for improvement.”

Garis wouldn’t comment on Kucukgozen’s situation specifically except to say staff are reviewing the processes that led them to the home.

Kucukgozen, a 25-year-old partner with Sam’s Flooring in Langley, said his career affords him some of the finer things in life, and the fact that some people interpret that as involvement in drugs in troubling.

“I got a Dobermann pinscher outside, I drive a $60,000 Dodge Ram, my wife’s got a $30,000 truck, I’ve got a $40,000 boat in the yard,” he said. “You can’t make decent money in this town without people thinking you’re a drug dealer?”

He says his wife and eight-month-old child were traumatized.

“All these cops showed up to the house, they wouldn’t let my wife out of the car.”

He says his Hydro bill doesn’t qualify as evidence for a search.

“They keep going on that it was Hydro,” Kucukgozen said, adding his highest monthly bill for his 3,000-sq.-ft. home in the past several months was $210.

“That’s average... I’m the laughing stock of my frigging town,” Kucukgozen said.

Kucukgozen’s complaint of unfair treatment comes as the provincial legislature considers Bill 25, which would compel electrical companies to provide consumption records to municipalities.

Civil libertarians says the legislation is heavy handed and unnecessary.

B.C.’s Information and Privacy Commissioner David Loukidelis also has concerns about the proposed legislation.

In an April 6 letter to Rich Coleman, minister for housing, Loukidelis expressed worries over the frequency of such legislation.

“Such initiatives are multiplying at all levels of government in Canada and are cause for concern,” Loukidelis wrote. “They are in my view, to be avoided wherever possible, including because they are not subject to prior approval by the courts.”

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Blaster
04-22-2006, 06:16 PM
Just wait, if this follows the US plan, inocent homeowners will soon be getting shot because they fit the profile of a drug dealer. Oh we are sooo sorry but the officer was acting within department guidlines.

So no one will get charged with a crime unless the home owner tries to protect themselves. To throw insult to injury the cops will then file to have the property siezed and sold at auction to offset the cost of the operation. It doesn't matter that the person wasn't charged or convicted of anything.

People in Canada need to take a serious look at what these kinds of actions have done to the US rights to property

lriv
04-22-2006, 10:28 PM
man, that sounds like one hell of a lawsuit if you ask me...he has the money to do it and i hope he sticks it good to the system!!!

claude_zachary420
04-23-2006, 09:05 AM
I would sue as well. Actually, this isnt anything like in the USA. In America youd be hard pressed to get a warrant based on power bills alone. Cops would need much more evidence than that. They can actually check ur power use without a warrant in some states. No judge would give them a warrant based on just that. Also, the thing about requiring an inspection and u must let them in is illegal here in the USA. The power company would be sued for shutting off the power. If i were in Canada and wanted to prove this law is about bs and not about an actual hazard, i would set up the grow room and grow tomatoes for a while. Let them come check it out. They can even have some Romas to take home. If they dont shut down the tomoto operation, theres ur evidence its not about a fire hazard. After letting ur tomato room go, they really wouldnt have any cause to ever come back as they know u have lights, etc...

(Handy tip: Switching ur household lamp bulbs from the standard 60watt-100watt incadescent bulbs with newer compact fluoros can offset much of the power usage of a grow bulb or 2.) ;-)

skeeter
04-23-2006, 09:46 AM
I hope serious growers go to solar power (the sun) for enegery...This idea has been on my mind for several years... I do hope the folks who don't grow, and are traumitized (sp) start lawsuits all over the AmeriKa's:mad:

In The Wind
04-23-2006, 10:43 AM
More folks are gonna start bypassing the meter, that's what's gonna happen

mdanzig
04-23-2006, 11:31 AM
The whole world is starting to really suck!!!

GreenThumb
04-23-2006, 01:03 PM
George Orwell's "1984" sure has come to fruition!
Government intrusion into your private life. Every time you turn around there's a camera watching you. Neighbours ratting on neighbours... Police trampling on our basic rights..
Just what Big Brother has been pining for, for years ...

WestCoastCroppers
04-23-2006, 10:57 PM
I hope this Surrey family sues the S*** out of the RCMP and gets fairly compensated for this grievous error .... :mad:

speakrsrfun
04-24-2006, 12:34 AM
I hope this Surrey family sues the S*** out of the RCMP and gets fairly compensated for this grievous error .... :mad:

My sentiments exactly, only if I had anyone kick in a door at my place 2 not so happy disturbed Bulldogs would attack and I would probably want to follow up with a few warning shots into the head of the intruder. Unfortunately in Canada I would also go to jail for killing someone who enters my home uninvited, in the States it would be deemed self defense, here I'd serve 10 years for manslaughter!!! I say all this in jest as I would never shoot a gun at a human, but in these circumstances it only seems right to protect your home and what’s yours. Shit, I paid with my hard earned money for my property also, never sold a dime of herb, never will, I'd rather give it to the not so privileged as I have had others do unto me in the past. It urkes me that this is going on in Canada, someone should get Harper to piss in a cup and see how innocent that man is, not so I presume. Good luck to this family, and lets hope we get rid of this right wing extremist gov't before were really phucked ......Peace and keep well.

Thanks and happy Growing

Speakrsrfun