Hermie q's

[payne]

Alright, what is the scoop with hermies...and how do we know its really a hermie and not a self polinating female??
What is the difference between them?
Does it effect smoke quality?
Does it effect bud production or lack of?
So, do you throw out hermie?
What about the seeds it produced? Keep em or toss em?
That is all I can think of for questions right now.
Hmmm, I think I am in a constant state of confusion since I started to grow....:confused: :rolleyes: :eek:

[FUNK4:20]

hermies-when i plant goes hermi instead of the plant focusing on producing thc like it should it instead focuses on producing seeds greatly reducing THC. Now sometimes you can stress out your plant by several diffrent factors and it goes into servival mode and it causes it to produce seeds instead of flowers so the strain remains on this earth. A true female plant will put all its effort in producing THC glands and large buds:)The seeds as far as i know will be 99 percent hermies also--you might get some female but mostly hermies from what i have experianced. So the answer would be it effects everything about the plant putting it in servival mode.Sorry for the typos but i got to type fast...take care---funk

[payne]

Is that why the trichs seem to have 'disappeared'? I could see the sugar on it very well, and now...it is barely visiable... :(

[latewood]

Alright, what is the scoop with hermies...and how do we know its really a hermie and not a self polinating female??
What is the difference between them?
Does it effect smoke quality?
Does it effect bud production or lack of?
So, do you throw out hermie?
What about the seeds it produced? Keep em or toss em?
That is all I can think of for questions right now.
Hmmm, I think I am in a constant state of confusion since I started to grow....:confused: :rolleyes: :eek:Self pollenating females are hermies...pollen sacks, a male trait will form genetically or by stress and pollenate the flowers, creating seeds.

Yes, that is why you are or there is an appearance of losing pistils, and or trichomes. I judge whether or not to cull them from the garden based on how long they have left. If you are in early flower, and don't want to grow the seed to maturity, then KILL them. If you have made it most of the way, you might as well finish.

It takes at least a month from when seeds pop out before they are mature and viable...You want to look for the darkest hardest seeds in the bunch...very light, or softer immature seeds can be discarded as they are useless. peace.

[PharmaPharmer]

It takes a lot of energy t omake seeds when you consider the size of trichomes versus seeds.

A true hermie will have both male and female flowers. Some plants (especially from hermie seeds) will spontaneously develop seeds without the presence of male flowers. After 6 years of college and many years of growing i still don't know why this happens but I have seen it.

I currently have 2 plants that were supose t obe accidently feminized WW seeds. While all the seeds I've popped sofar have been female one went purple and the other developed seeds without male flowers. The others (grown at a pals house) look just like the one I have that developed seeds but they didn't develop seeds.

[payne]

Let's say, what does it mean when they have fertilized another different plant? will those (other plant's seeds) have hermie traights as well? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Or will those be feminized seeds?

[zardoz]

I had an accidental crossing in my garden, one plant or another turned hermie.. likely due to stress ... Magic Crystal x Humboldtsnow. The bud (such that remained...) was decent quallity. I gave away all of the seeds from that grow, everyone that recieved that seed has reported back 100% females on germination and zero undesireable traits (no hermies, no phenos).

Gord

[ojibman]

It takes a lot of energy t omake seeds when you consider the size of trichomes versus seeds.

A true hermie will have both male and female flowers. Some plants (especially from hermie seeds) will spontaneously develop seeds without the presence of male flowers. After 6 years of college and many years of growing i still don't know why this happens but I have seen it.

I currently have 2 plants that were supose t obe accidently feminized WW seeds. While all the seeds I've popped sofar have been female one went purple and the other developed seeds without male flowers. The others (grown at a pals house) look just like the one I have that developed seeds but they didn't develop seeds.Its a self defense mechinism , assuring the plant or species lives on.

[payne]

This is so strange...only seeds on the bottom...nothing up top... I could literally 'see' the trichs disapearing when the seeds were growing.
I am just gonna let her be...she will be gone this weekend...trichs are not changing any more...she has finished.
Thanks for all the help.

[nickit]

what kinda stress will make a plant turn into a hemie?

[pflover]

That depends on the genetic propensity of the plant in question to hermie. some plants are full expression hermies and as soon as they flower they express both sexes. there appears to be some varying degree of partial expression hermies that can express from many things like being too mature into bud yet not seeded yet, night cycle interferance (most common indoor), water stress, tempature stress... altho i am not sure if i personally believe these trimming leaves or lower buds, LST and other physical manipulations supposedly can induce hermies as well.

[purplesmoke]

in answer to your question a hermie pollenate the plant next to it the seeds on the plant next to hermie will have feminized seeds.Now the first seeds i ever bought were here at TY made by a fellow patient NL5 and BUBBLEGUM all the seeds came out female and the bubblegum was potent.a hermie will produce a sex of seeds not multiple sexes on 1 plant.everyone told this mmj patient it would not work but it was great, he used light stress during the dark cycle.if you need seeds and meds only pollenate a small portion of the plant a couple bottom branches then cover them with a baggie..................the reversed sex males made from STS are low pollen producing males and patients are leaving these males in there grow and getting small amounts of seeds from these mixed up males.i also have been told that a plant producing some seed is not as potent as it could be.i havnt used STS maybe in thefuture when i am more concerned about seeds.

[payne]

What does it mean when a plant shows female then towards the end of flowering goes hermie?

[pflover]

it means it contains the hermie gene but is not a full blown hermie. many things can cause the expression of this kind of hermie. it can be as simple as being too mature with out having been pollenated yet but it could also be soming more damaging like light poisoning or heat stress. if you keep a close eye on plants like this and remove any bananas that you see as soon as you see them they rarely become much of an issue. (at least in my garden they do not.)

[ShroomDr]

I think you guys are all oversimplifying the hermie thing.

First, i this is one of my first post here, so.. *flame Shield*

Hermie is short for Hermaphrodite. Hermies occur in nature (including humans) but its not just the 3 male, hermie & female. There are different types of hermies. There are HUMANS who look like men, but never had there male genitalia develop, there are 'females' with tits ****** and ***** (no pictures please) & girls with an abnormally formed 'meat curtains' (again please no pictures)


Ok so how about the plants?

Well let us not forget that we know almost nothing about male ganga plants, because 99.99999% of us kill a male instead of watching it throw as much pollen as we can possible get from it (just like we try to maximize the females).

So as i understand it
1. there is true male & female hermie. Both pistils and sacs grow at the same time.
2. There are (sativas, mainly) that show male preflowers, but then switch to female. (possible useful in breeding)
3. There are females that throw a few bananas in flowering, but the pollen is sterile.
4.Females that throw bananas during flowering that are not sterile (arch enemy #1 IMHO). Some strains may not produce until the last week of flowering, making the pollen useless anyway.
& the rarely seen
5. Males that produce a few sterile female pistils
6. Males that produce a few pistils & seed. (Masculinized seed, to produce your killer father, i guess).

Well that all i can think of

[payne]

lets say...1 wk into flowering...ok, we stressed the plant with light or anything for that matter. So does it hermie right away or does it wait lets say 3 or 4 wks later? I guess what I am trying to ask is HOW soon after stressing it should we see the bananas?? Does this make sense ??