Herbalaire

[rangergord]

I have had my herbalaire for 8 months now. I use it every day and have not grown tired of it. I do not smoke much anymore except when away from home or when it is sunny out and I decide to use the sun and a magnifying lense to roast a bowl. It is efficient, and has a completely adjustable and accurate temperature control. Mine came with a volcano style bag and an air pump. This works well especially with groups of people. My herbalaire is well designed and durable. It cost me $190 US. I have used it successfully with green wet uncured herb as well as dried and cured. The taste of the vapours can be really nice. I like to start out at a temp of 350 F to capture the essential oils and terpenes in the herb. I think they add something to the high and the health benefits. I finish off the bowl at a temperature of 370 F to get the more stoney effects that you get from smokeing while still eliminating combustion and it byproducts from entering my lungs.

[rangergord]

pics are not uploading properly not sure why

[Clear Head C]

I have tried the herbalaire and found it to be the same as the volcano, only you have to put your finger over the hole while passing, still a very good unit

[Duck]

Efficiency -
When the volcano has finished all it can do with your herb, simply put the "duff" in this unit and draw another dense bag or two.

Affordability -
As aforementioned, half the price of a volcano.

Aesthetics-
Not as large, pretty, or as well built as the volcano, but attractive enough in its own right.

Versitality-
This unit comes with a 12 foot cord! When not using the bag system, it is easy to pass the working unit around the room. Portability is lost when implementing the bag system, but no more so than the Volcano.

The HerbalAire is available from KDK Distributors (A TY Sponsor). Kelly, from KDK will be demonstrating the Volcano at Hempfest; he may have HerbalAire units in stock for purchase or demonstration as well.

[Clear Head C]

the air pump would make it not so easy to pass around since it has a seperate fish tank style air pump which would take 2 hands to pass around, same as volcano



Versitality-
This unit comes with a 12 foot cord! When not using the bag system, it is easy to pass the working unit around the room. Portability is lost when implementing the bag system, but no more so than the Volcano.

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[Capt. Zigzag]

The HA is also known for the ability to take a bit-o-bud right off the plant and vape it. To check the plants progress, you see.


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[Duck]

The air pump is only used when you are utilizing the bag system configuration. That is to say, when passing the unit itself around, the pump is not attached. It's more a puff-puff-pass scenario then.

[Duck]

HerbalAire was crafted, & is manufactured in Canada. Due to the hard work of KDK, and some outside Ducky business networking, HerbalAire is now available directly out of the USA. That's right folks! The Vapor Store (Honorable TY sponsor bringing you the VaporBox, VaporTower, VaporGenie) is now carrying the HerbaAire in the USA.

If you want to see/know more about these finely engineered, durable HerbalAire vaporizers, check out these TY Sponsors...
KDK (http://www.valleyofgreen.com/) in Canada,
or
VaporStore (http://www.vaporstore.com) in the USA

[Capt. Zigzag]

Very clean site. Do you have a brick and mortor?

It seems to me that a line of extraction stuff would fit right in. Like, for instance, the eXtractor1000, (extraction technique) and bubble bags (filter technique).


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[420eh]

i just got my herbalaire vapourizor late last week. like those above, i agree its a mini volcano when it comes to the end product.


the air pump would make it not so easy to pass around since it has a seperate fish tank style air pump which would take 2 hands to pass around, same as volcano


The air pump is only used when you are utilizing the bag system configuration. That is to say, when passing the unit itself around, the pump is not attached. It's more a puff-puff-pass scenario then.

it maybe better explained that you detach the bag and pass the bag around.


i was able to fill my chamber (do not grind your meds) and get 7 bags from one filling. i start out at 300 and make my way to 350-360. they reccommend 275 to 400. a red light underneath the unit tells you its on. another light near the temp gauge tells you 3 things. green its under temp, amber its good to go, and red that its hot. the bag unit with the air pump helps keep the amber lite quite well. the unit comes with 2 bags and 2 mouth pieces. makesw it good for fillingone while consuming the other.

they even give in instructions on how to test your unit with a power convertor for when your travelling

one problem i did find with it, is when its set at around 350 +. the teflon mouth piece gets warm.

i'd recommend it.


420eh

[Keith Fagin]

The volcano has 6 holes for the hot air to pass through the herb and the Herbal Aire has 18 holes for the hot air to pass through the herb.

Personally I would purchase a bigger (stronger) air pump but other then the air pump I would be happy with the end results.

I use a Volcano currently.

The two friends (they bought one each) I got a Herbal Aire for like it alot.
Grant got them for me from Kelly at KDK here in Calgary.

Keith

[420eh]

Personally I would purchase a bigger (stronger) air pump but other then the air pump I would be happy with the end results.

Keith

i thought the same thing but wondered about the faster moving air through it. would the heat eliminate keep up or would this not cause it to run to cool?

420eh

[Keith Fagin]

Thanks for bringing that up 420eh. I will have to try it out and see if it does work or not. Buddy is in B.C. right now but when he returns I will drop by and use a larger air pump on the Herbale Aire to find out if it will work or not.

Keith

[mystify]

I was wondering if anyone of you have tried or know about the Voodoo or Mystifire vaporizers by pyro-products. Has anyone had any expereince with either one of these units?

I'm in the market to purchase one and I came across them on google.

[mental marijuana]

The Voodoo is just the Vapir 3.0 in a different package. I was not impressed with the Vapir model. It works but not the best. i would, personally, find a different vape.

I dig the Vapor Brothers units. Have had mine for around 3 years now and no problems with it being used on a daily basis. There are a few good vapes out there but I would not go with the Voodoo or the Vapir. I do not know about the Mystifire.

[mystify]

can you tell me what it is about the vapire/ voodoo model that you do not like?

what so great about the vapor brothers vape?

[WestCoastCroppers]

I personally didn't care for any of the Vapir product line ... just doesnt do the job effectively enough to get my support ... Volcano or the Hot glass vap (for people who are on a budget).

[GrassMaster]

Has anyone tried the new vapair 4.0? Wondering if it is better. What models would be good to use, until I have the money some day to get a volcano. I really want to get into vaping, but heard that most of the cheaper units are a waste. I hear they do not release all the essentials, or take forever to heat up, and don't hold the heat once hot. So I'm confused. are there any good models out there for under Less than $200? Peace

[mental marijuana]

I have the Vapir 3.0. The fan running it is very loud. I found it leakes vapor unless you tape over a whole lot of spots. The high was not the same as other vapes either. It also did not fill up the bags with thick vapor at all. A fine mist would float around in there. It took us a long time to get medicated using the tube or the bags. I just found that the vape was not consentrated enough to do the job properly. It also seems to have a hard time maintaining the heat with the fan up higher than low. If I had no choice I would use it but I would not buy another one and would strongly urge anyone else to not buy one either.

I hate companies that put a horrible product and try to push it off as top of the line. Their first model received nothing but complaints and this model has pretty much been the same. As far as their new box design goes i will not be getting one. A company can only take my money once unless they put out a good product.

I find the Vapor Brothers to be a fantastic vape. It is a box style vape with a whip. I can take huge hits with it. It heats up to the temp you set in about 3 minutes and holds it temp until I shut it off for the night. I have left it on all day long, every day, for over 3 years now and it is still running as good as day 1.

They are a great vape and under $150.00. All I can say is that I am happy with it. It has served us well and everyone who has tried it has enjoyed it. One day I will get a Volcano. Too many people worship them for them not to be great. But when my VB dies i will get another one because it has been a great vape for us. I am sure that there are quite a few great vapes out there but they usuallly cost more than I can afford.

[WestCoastCroppers]

Hot Glass Vap is wicked too (IMO) .. You can find em @ www.freshheadies.com



Peace !!

WCC

[backpain]

Thanks for bringing that up 420eh. I will have to try it out and see if it does work or not. Buddy is in B.C. right now but when he returns I will drop by and use a larger air pump on the Herbale Aire to find out if it will work or not.

Keith

as long as it can keep up with a hard pull from your lungs, it should be able to keep up with some dinky lil airpump!! (or a lil bigger than dinky.. ;))

[Keith Fagin]

Thanks for bringing that up 420eh. I will have to try it out and see if it does work or not. Buddy is in B.C. right now but when he returns I will drop by and use a larger air pump on the Herbale Aire to find out if it will work or not.

Keith

It still works with the larger air pump. I like it better myself as it is quicker.

Keith

[420eh]

It still works with the larger air pump. I like it better myself as it is quicker.

Keith

thats good to hear keith.... was it just a larger version of the same style pump? i take it, it can be purchased just about anywhere aquariums are sold.

420eh

[the image reaper]

after doing all the research I could, I ordered a new HerbalAire vaporizer ... it just seemed as if it's reputation as being a "mini-Volcano at half the price" 'may' be deserved ... I expect to receive it this week, so I will report back with an opinion ... I presently use a Vapor Bros. whip-style, and while it seems to work pretty well, I'm looking to try something a little more hassle-free ... :cool:

[allmanjoy]

I got an aromed over the weekend it is the perfect vaporizer. IF you like bongs this makes you feel like you are still bonging. The digital readout and heat from the light is pretty precise. I had a hotbox but noticed I was burning my herbs with no control but my intake. Also the smoke was very hot.



The aromed looks bad and is not very mod looking. The digital read out should be on the side but besides that it is a sturdy machine.



I start vaping at 380 and get more then 5 flavorfull hits. then I stir it and turn heat up to 390 get 4 more tasty hits and then up to 400 or 410 for last 2-3 hits. Wait 10 minutes and you feel the rush. IF you turn it up to 410 to start you will cough on every hit if you draw to hard.



The water cools the intake great. Just put enough in to just cover bottom of stem.



Even tried a little chamomile in it and that was tasting and relaxing. Can't see why you want to use a bag. THe aromed is the best in my opinion.
:eek:

[mental marijuana]

If I wonded the Aromed this is how I would hook mine up.

http://www.mikuriya.com/vapor10.html

[allmanjoy]

Yea a mask and a moving stand would make this great. Wasted all day.

Aromed is great and I dont see water taking away flavor.

[rangergord]

You should really start an aromed thread allmanjoy. Can a moderator move this?

[the image reaper]

wow ! ... talk about Fast Shipping :eek: ... I received my "HerbalAire H2.1" a few minutes ago, (it just left the warehouse yesterday), and, here it is, in my greasy little hands, already :D ... first off, it was packaged very well, and upon opening it up, I immediately 'Read the Instructions' (yeah, I'm one of 'those' people) ... everything is pretty simple, which is what I was looking for, as my present Vapor Bros. had a 'learning curve' to it, and takes a while to get it mastered ... not so here, this is as easy as it gets ... I was very pleased with the construction quality of this HerbalAire, too ... more like you find in 'legitimate' appliances, and less of the 'cobbed together in my basement' sort of paraphenalia, usually found in our culture ... I put one pea-sized bit of bud in it, set it to 350, and one 'toke' later, I am typing this with some effort :D ... it vaporizes at least as good as my Vapor Bros., with zero hassle ... I am already glad I bought it ... hope this helps anyone 'sitting on the fence' about choosing a vaporizer ... :)

[allmanjoy]

Yea I have given my new aromed a test drive as well and must say it works great. I find you can go as low as 370 and still get some great flavor for several hits. I like the water and not worried about less potency due to water.
I still wonder if vape remains are as potent for cooking as when I used hot box. Aromed sure doesnt look as burnt and under micro still has lots of hair etc,
I am glad I went with aro as the controls are precise and it is easy to clean etc.
Dont think I would enjoy a bag.

[the image reaper]

that's another cool thing about the HerbalAire, it can be used either as a bag-type, when you have company, or like a pipe, if alone ... I tried both, seems like the bag method needs less heat, probably because of the constant 'draw' ... so far, looks like around 350 for pipe, and next time, I'll try about 325 for the bag ... :)

[the image reaper]

after using my HerbalAire for a few days, I have a bit to add ... first, while I can't say it extracts any better than my Vapor Bros., I will say I 'burn' much less medicine, and it definitely is a lot less awkward to use, than the Vapor Bros. ... I find myself preferring to use the bag, even though I'm smoking by myself ... I set it on 350 for the first bag, 370 for the second filling, then usually just toss the remaining 'duff' into a jar, for future conversion to 'cannabutter' ... I have verified what I read in a rather technical article, that examined vaporizers... it stated all vaporizers only extract about 45% of the THC in the bud ... after vaporizing a bit of bud 2, or even 3 times, and placing it under a microscope, you can still view about half of the trichomes intact ... intact, and apparently, unphased by the vaporization ... so, by all means, don't throw out your 'duff' ... it can be rolled into party joints, or used in cooking, as there is still a LOT of potency left in it ... all in all, I rate the HerbalAire H2.1 highly, and I'm glad I bought it ... :D