Cannabutter

[Ganja]

Where Might I find a good recipe for this item?
Does anyone have a favorite?

I am new to the cooking aspect of this herb but been a user for 30years and just recently a medical user.

Any small help with this item would be great.

I figure that if a good butter is used for the base then any cooking/baking would be vastly improved. As a retired chef, amongst other things, this could be very interesting indeed.

TYI

Regards
Ganja :cool:

[pflover]

http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1586&highlight=cannabutter

that's my prefered recipe. :)

[Marco Renda]

We have all kinds of recipes in our publication TREATING YOURSELF. I can't remember what issue it was in but I know that we had 2 different cannabutter recipes in there

Take Care and Peace
Marco

[allmanjoy]

On a recent visit to San Fran I was able to try Medical Rice Crispie squares from a co op that had hardly a taste of herb and very effective. 2 squares 5 bucks and a great high from one. Think it is cheaper then smoking
So how are they made?

I want to try cannabuter over the holiday.

[420eh]

a quick rundown

-place water and meds (some say a lb to a lb of butter, some add 50% less meds) in large pot on stove. make it look stew like and not over watery.

-turn on heat, turn to simmer when boiling reached

-add in regular butter

-simmer ..water can be just below med line while simmering.(Time ranges from 30mins to 48hrs. depends who's talking)


while still hot remove handfuls (wear gloves) of plant matter at a time, from hot pot and squeeze into a container through a cheesecloth (strains it). place strained water/butter into fridge freezer. water and butter will separate. scrap bottom of butter to remove film.

enjoy

420eh

[Green Medicine]

On a recent visit to San Fran I was able to try Medical Rice Crispie squares from a co op that had hardly a taste of herb and very effective. 2 squares 5 bucks and a great high from one. Think it is cheaper then smoking
So how are they made?

I want to try cannabuter over the holiday.

Repeated "water washes" of the cannabutter can make it taste like butter and not so "green" tasting.

Once you squeeze out the cannabutter, put it back on the stove with lot's of water and simmer for 30 minutes.
Freeze it. Once frozen ditch the green ice and repeat if needed.
This makes a butter that is suitable for foods where the plant taste
would make it unappetizing.

Rice Crispy Medi-squares:

1/4 cup cannabutter.
4 cups marshmallow minis or sliced up full size marshmallows.
6 cups crispies or better yet...fruity pebbles or cocoa crispies!
If you like chopped nuts or chocolate chips, toss in a handful just before you put it in the pan.

Melt the butter in a pot. Stir in the marshmallows.
Stir often until the butter is fully melted into the mixture. Don't let it burn.
Add the cereal until fully coated by the melting marshmallows.
Put into a 9" x 9" pyrex or metal cake pan and press down on the mixture.
It's sticky, so a dab of butter or a drop of oil on your hands will help it not stick to your hands.
Refrigerate for a couple of hours. I freeze mine for a 1/2 hour before cutting them up, it's easier but not necessary. Cut into 9 - 3"x3" pieces.

The usual dose is two squares with a glass of milk.
(test your batch's dosage by eating ONE first....then another 90 minutes later)

Eat. Feel better!

[PharmaPharmer]

Repeated "water washes" of the cannabutter can make it taste like butter and not so "green" tasting.

Once you squeeze out the cannabutter, put it back on the stove with lot's of water and simmer for 30 minutes.
Freeze it. Once frozen ditch the green ice and repeat if needed.
This makes a butter that is suitable for foods where the plant taste
would make it unappetizing.




I would skip the freezing part as it dosn't help the process any. Just placing it in the fregerator will cause the butter to solidify just fine. I've found that lettign the water/butter come to room temp without cooling produces a much higher quality butter. Read my post titled "everything you wanted to know about butter" as it details the commercial buttermaking process quite well.

Water washing works great for removing excess chlorophyl and soluable fiber but the importing thing to remember is to start with quality herb! If you are using trim dry and cure it as you would bud and much of the lawn clipping flavor is eliminated. A water wash helps with the rest!

[Green Medicine]

The only reason I like to freeze it is it makes it easier to handle.

I've never found "granularity" to be an issue when *cooking* with cannabutter.

[hashimoto]

I use my extractor bags first, one 30 minute 'run' only. This removes alot of the chlorophyll before I begin the cannabutter process. Turn on my crockpot, adding the mashed material leftover from the extraction process into the crockpot with a lb of butter. The leftover ice melts providing the water, (i use alot of ice)
I've found 150 grams of raw material/water/butter almost fills one 4 quart crockpot. Simmer on lowest setting for 5 days.

[PharmaPharmer]

The only reason I like to freeze it is it makes it easier to handle.

I've never found "granularity" to be an issue when *cooking* with cannabutter.

Not trying to sound confrontational or be a ball buster but how is a solid mass easier to deal with than a solid floating on a liquid? It's as easy as pouring off the liquid and retaining the solid and IMHO makes for a much more simple process that dosn't involve using a knife to seperate the water from the butter.

I also prefer using a crock pot rather than stove top cooking as it's pretty difficult to mess up something in a crock pot. I've had a few boil-overs using stovetop cooking methods but since I got me technique down with the crock pot I have only experienced an increase in quality with each batch.

[Green Medicine]

It works well for me...your mileage may vary.

[allmanjoy]

lb to lb I read somewhere 1 oz per lb or butter. what about vap remains?

[GriM]

what about vap remains?i just tryed a batch of butter i made from vapped meds about 2 oz's of meds not vapped all the way still a lil green in a lb of butter and cooked for about 16-18 hours.. butter looked normal but the potancy was not there for my made my useal brownies and started eating 1,2,3,4 oh theres the buzz now normaly my brownies are one shot deals one brownie you are done i could get reall big eating 4-5 to ease my pain .....lol anyways i will try again as soon as my vapped meds add up but from my first try i really didnt see the advantage of trying to save the old vap mads just didnt pack the punch for me .....

[pflover]

Not trying to sound confrontational or be a ball buster but how is a solid mass easier to deal with than a solid floating on a liquid? It's as easy as pouring off the liquid and retaining the solid and IMHO makes for a much more simple process that dosn't involve using a knife to seperate the water from the butter.


I use the freezer like GM but i take the butter/water mix out of the freezer before the water freezes. the butter will freeze sooner than the water. if a thin layer of ice forms around the side of the vessel it does not make a difference over doing it in the fridge. the freezer just speeds up the process. of course there is the drawback of needing to keep a closer eye on it. if you forget and leave it in the freezer over night than phrama's complaints are very valid.

[Merlin]

All this talk of butter....:) just plugged in the crock pot, I'm gunna whip up some Thanksgiving brownies

[allmanjoy]

I just made a 2 stick batch of butter and the cookies are great only need 2.
I use the recipe on back of Hershey chips. I just made a 1/2 batch.

So I froze the other 1/2 of cannabutter. How long will it keep?
If you take a tablespoon or 2 and saute shrimp in it would it get you buzzed or does it have to be cooked into the recipe.

:rolleyes:

[pflover]

mostly i would avoid things that count as frying with it. other than that you can add it to almost any thing that uses some oil. frozen it will keep for a very long time. in the fridge it will last for at least 3 months.

[GriM]

Repeated "water washes" of the cannabutter can make it taste like butter and not so "green" tasting.

Once you squeeze out the cannabutter, put it back on the stove with lot's of water and simmer for 30 minutes.
Freeze it. Once frozen ditch the green ice and repeat if needed.
This makes a butter that is suitable for foods where the plant taste
would make it unappetizing.

Rice Crispy Medi-squares:

1/4 cup cannabutter.
4 cups marshmallow minis or sliced up full size marshmallows.
6 cups crispies or better yet...fruity pebbles or cocoa crispies!
If you like chopped nuts or chocolate chips, toss in a handful just before you put it in the pan.

Melt the butter in a pot. Stir in the marshmallows.
Stir often until the butter is fully melted into the mixture. Don't let it burn.
Add the cereal until fully coated by the melting marshmallows.
Put into a 9" x 9" pyrex or metal cake pan and press down on the mixture.
It's sticky, so a dab of butter or a drop of oil on your hands will help it not stick to your hands.
Refrigerate for a couple of hours. I freeze mine for a 1/2 hour before cutting them up, it's easier but not necessary. Cut into 9 - 3"x3" pieces.

The usual dose is two squares with a glass of milk.
(test your batch's dosage by eating ONE first....then another 90 minutes later)

Eat. Feel better!ok this looked sooo good i had to try it but only did one wash of my budder(1 1/2 ozpopcorn bud and a oz of vaped meds to 2-3 sticks of butter)and still is very green so wondering how meny washes does it take to clean it up so it doesnt taste so much like bud? ... i usaly use my budder in browies and dont notice the taste near as much as i did in the coco crispy treats....guessing all that choco covered the taste ....lol

[allmanjoy]

I made my 3rd batch of cannabutter and made a stupid mistake. I used a bigger pot then last time and put toooo much water in it so when I was pouring it out to strain etc I didnt have enough containers etc so I made a freaking mess and probably lost about a 1/3 of my butter.
AHHHHHH
well at least it was vap remains so I aint crying the blues too bad.
But be careful you dont need alot of water.
:eek:

[pflover]

lol i think that would actually make me cry more, amj.

[allmanjoy]

lol i think that would actually make me cry more, amj.

You really swear by those vap remains.....
Hey how will I measure butter now. I had 2 sticks to start with. last time it was all in one container so I just cut it in half. Now I got 3 containers with a thin layer of budder in refrig... ahhh I am going to cry....

:confused:

[pflover]

collect all the better. remelt it. get a new measure of remaining volume. 1 stick equals 1/2 cup.

[allmanjoy]

thanks I just put a loaf of Bannana bread in the oven. this budder is a nice dark green. I think I will be real happy. Froze the other stick of budder for use in the new year/

:cool:

[allmanjoy]

ahh nice warm bannana bread is the way to start the day.
After my fiasco with the budder I am now relaxing and enjoying the bread.
No taste of herb just a nice roasted bud flavor.........
I think I will have another slice and see how far this can go.
:rolleyes:

[allmanjoy]

bannana bread is just toooo easy to eat.... Got to freeze that loaf now before its all gone....
I like this ability to get vaped twice and then baked. The aromed will pay for itself in less then 2 months.

:p

[pflover]

hehehe yeah, i thought cannabanana bread was the shinizit too! :D

[allmanjoy]

yes it is yes it is......
So got a technical question
If I only used one stick of butter instead of 2 would the butter I make be twice as strong. (using same amount of meds each way)

Good thing I froze that loaf.

[pflover]

i would expect so but can't actually say so with certainty.

GM? you might know the answer to this. :)

[Teddy Trout]

Pflover, how would the water cure method used first, then taking those buds and then making butter from them work. Also is there anything you can do with dried trimming and large fan leaf, other than smoke it?

[allmanjoy]

I just pick this butter up with 82% butterfat pamplie (french I assume


http://www.beurre-de-pamplie.com/ENG/products.html

also got this american brand Plugra but not sure of its butterfat.

Is there higher then 82?
here is article I found that might help folks
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/13/FDGASMT5PD1.DTL
it rates butters.

Also what is butterfat milk? Would it extract better then butter as I have a great Buttermilk pancake recipe. It only uses a tablespoon of butter but like a cup of buttermilk. not sure if that would work unless 1 person ate the whole batch if u only used canabutter

[allmanjoy]

opps just found 84% organic valley european style. But if I read right Pflover it looks like if you render the butter first before mixing it with meds you would have a higher butter fat? Does that make using less meds for better potency due to higher fat count? I am wondering if I should try making ghee. Also if I do make ghee can I do my simmering water method with meds and butter?

[pflover]

Pflover, how would the water cure method used first, then taking those buds and then making butter from them work. Also is there anything you can do with dried trimming and large fan leaf, other than smoke it?

I am not exactly sure if you are talking about a normal water cure (http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=283&highlight=water+cure) or if you are talking about my particular way of making no-ick ghee (http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1586&highlight=ghee). If you do a traditional water cure than dried out the buds there would be no difference in how you would make cannabutter than if they had been cured a more traditional method. If you did a traditional water cure and tried to make cannabutter before you dried the buds some of the THC might be lost in the water soluble acid form to the water if you're using the water/butter method and not just simmering the buds directly in butter. Either way tho most of the THC should be decarboxylated from the heat during the butter extraction. If you mean my no-ick ghee recipe well, what i just said still applies. The heat in the butter extraction appears to decarboxylate the active constituents. My ghee is plenty strong for what it's made from.

dried trim can be used to make kif or hash. It can also be used along with the large fan leaves for making cannabutter. If the material is dried first the butter will have a stronger greener flavor but will work just fine for making medibles.

[pflover]

heh if the butter was strong enough a table spoon could make a couple people well medicated but not overly so. Isn't butter milk milk that has been spoiled slightly? I am curious if this would effect the ability of the fats to absorb the cannabinoids are not. Bhang is basically the infusion of cannabis into whole milk. I've made ice cream from bhong before.

[pflover]

opps just found 84% organic valley european style. But if I read right Pflover it looks like if you render the butter first before mixing it with meds you would have a higher butter fat? Does that make using less meds for better potency due to higher fat count? I am wondering if I should try making ghee. Also if I do make ghee can I do my simmering water method with meds and butter?

I do not have an opinion on these questions. GM would be a more knowledgeable person to ask I believe.

[Lacy]

I use my extractor bags first, one 30 minute 'run' only. This removes alot of the chlorophyll before I begin the cannabutter process. Turn on my crockpot, adding the mashed material leftover from the extraction process into the crockpot with a lb of butter. The leftover ice melts providing the water, (i use alot of ice)
I've found 150 grams of raw material/water/butter almost fills one 4 quart crockpot. Simmer on lowest setting for 5 days.What a great thread.
There are some good suggestions here and this is an area of great interest to me.
I find this method interesting as I have a bubbleator and was wondering about doing this myself before i made the butter but FIVE DAYS!!!

You simmer this on 'warm setting' for FIVE DAYS!!!
Gosh that is a LOT of time and I thought 12 hours was long:p
Why do you simmer it for so long?
Doesn't the lengthened time break down the THC content after a while?
I've never heard of canna butter cooking for so long so i am most interested in the results.

I think there is pros and cons to using clarified butter or ghee before making it canna butter. This is most interesting also.
What a great thread!!!

Thanks:cool: