Glycerin based Cannabis Tincture

[Sequoiacrone]

blessed members

I am so glad to be able to visit this medical forum.

There is a recipe going around the Oregon Medical Community that I wanted to share with sick people everywhere.

You need a cup of food grade glycerin.
An OUNCE of good bud....scissor cut, or a spin in the cuisinart will be do fine, if the fingers and hands are in pain, do what you have to.

Put these together in a sterilized clean Quart jar with a very tight seal...rubber liner is best.

Shake the contents for 5-10 minutes daily for two months.
Don't lose heart....THIS medicine is worth the wait.
When it is ready strain well, (I use a very good food press)
and put in brown bottles with eye droppers.

I find it an effective method of cannabis ingestion. Be careful and titrate the medicine to your needs in small doses. Wait a couple of hours before you take another dose.

I find it good for diabetic neuropathy and painful arthritis of the knees and hands. Others may find relief for other ailments.

healing energy and lovingkindness

Sequoia
oregongreenfree hempwalker

[Raton]

I know that some members with liver trouble will be interested this non-acoholic tincture. :)

[sedative ocean]

Great reciepe......
Thank you, I have never developed the taste for alcohol.
I will most definitely be trying this one out.

peace
Donna

[seedsamillion]

Great info.... Would this work topically as well? Anyone tried such applications?

[ReauxReaux]

Fabulous! Any alternative to alcohol is good! Is there a process to speed up the extraction into the glycerin...mild heating or whatnot? Or is the two-month soak necessary?

I don't know a lot of med users who are able to afford an ounce to let sit for two months.

[Sequoiacrone]

Blessings dear friends

I have shared Cannabis Medicine recipes for many years on the internet.

I make medicine for sick people and I GROW it for them.
I started experimenting with ingesting in the 1980's after a bout with breast cancer.

It has been over 20 years and I am still cancer free. I also have arthritis and it is a very slow onset for me there....and last but not least I deal with diabetes daily.

I have a wonderful life even with all that going on.

I also make a glycerin suppository made with bubble hash that is warmed and then poured into molds. That is a different type of glycerin (may have a paraffin base, not of ingesting) ....basicly melt down the
ones in the jar and mix in the bble hash and you have a real boon for someone suffering from nausea and pain. There is more to it and sterilizing everything is a must. Wrapping the suppository and putting in a jar and refrigeration is needed, but several persons I recommended this recipe to gained a weight the first week and they were on a downhill skid with chemotherapy and losing weight, energy, and suffereing greatly.

I am an old lady that makes my own medicine. Everyone on the planet should be able to use Cannabis Medicine.
The lies and myths and punitive measures to keep people from using it are WRONG.

BE sure to use FOOD GRADE GLYCERIN for this recipe. YOU can find anything online. A friend of mine buys it in a five gallon jug....and I get a quart at a time for about $10 ea. So if someone tries to sell you a quart of it for $69.95 look for a better deal.

This recipe is especially good for the elderly. NO I would not waste this using it topically. There are better recipes with penetrating creams as a base that you can make that are a lot more effective topically.

Healing energy and lovingkindness

Sequoiacrone
Oregongreenfree.com

[pflover]

Nice to see you here, SC. :D

i look forward to trying this out someday.

outa curiousity are you going to be attending the OMCA? thanx

Ally

[seedsamillion]

Omca??????????

[pflover]

Oregon-NORML Medical Cup Awards.... i entered this year.

[PharmaPharmer]

What did you enter PF?

[pflover]

Catalyst.... lol what else?

in future years i might enter other things but cat is the best thing in my garden currently, IMPO.

[sedative ocean]

Too cool, pf.....
From what I have seen....
It looks like you got the Cat down pat. ;)
Good luck to you.....

peace
Donna

[GreenThumb]

Seq.
I've been thinking of trying this method but have never used tincture before.
Do you apply a couple of drops under the tongue or can it be stirred into yer morning coffee?

[reddiet]

PF
Where might one obtain some Catalyst seeds?

RED

[kareem ahvunyun]

Seq.
I've been thinking of trying this method but have never used tincture before.
Do you apply a couple of drops under the tongue or can it be stirred into yer morning coffee?

Either way can be used.
I make the same stuff and have 3 Cancer Pats that swear by it.
One uses a couple of drops daily on the Atrophied Jaw Muscles and it has made a huge Difference with His quality of Life.
1/2 of My next Crop is going to Tincture for these Folks.
Thank You SequoiaCrone for bringing this up again. :D

[pflover]

cat is currently clone only.... (malawi x sk1) x bagseed male from honeydue region of humboldt county, cali, if you wanted to try and recreate it.

[Sequoiacrone]

Blessings pf lover!! No I will not be going to the OMCA. I try to save my energy for the ACMM (Advisory Committee on Medical Marijuana) meetings.
This is vital to patients because of the proposals for 2007 legislative session. You remember when we lost the Affirmative Defense in the last session I am sure. Patients are NOT criminals, and we do not need more punitive laws there.

You could put the tincture in anything to use it. Under the tongue it works in about 20 minutes. It's as good as the ingredients....being the cannabis, because the FOOD GRADE glycerin is only the extraction and carrier method here.

Start with a drop under the tongue and titrate to your health needs. Discuss this and any other medications you are taking with your doctor. Cannabis can ENHANCE other medications. You should be aware of this and prepare for any changes by speaking to your medical provider in advance.

Good luck there pflover!!
Kareem beloved friend....thank you!! is all I can say! I have two jars going and will start two more. I cannot make it fast enough!!

Sequoia
Oregongreenfree :)

[pflover]

we did not loose affirmitive defence it just got more defined as to where it apropriately applies and and i fully support the change. if a patient needs more than 24 oz on hand to treat their condition something is fishy. less than 24 oz and six mature plants (which could be anywhere from 1-20ft high depending on the growers technique) and affirmative deffence still applies. i personally like the change because in my eyes it protects use from commercial growers trying to hide under the guise of medical grower, a stituation that puts the entire program at risk.

Anyway it's sad that you won't be there. would like to meet you some day SC, but i totally understand about saving your expendable energy on the things that matter most to you.

hugs

Ally

[Yrekagrow]

i was wondering how the glycerin exctracts THC, also do think this would work with herbs like passionflower, serian rue, banisteriopsis caapi, or other enthobotanical herbs? (i personly have cirtain legal issues that prevent me from using MMJ to treat my ailments:( :confused: :( )

[payne]

When I used to make my own Ecchinacea tinctures (or other herbs), I would take a jar fill it with herb and cover it with 151 alcohol and then cover it with lid. Every day I would shake a few times a day for about 2- or whatever months I would need tincture. Sometimes I would strain the herbs, other times if it was used frequently it would get used straight from jar without straining it.
I would think this could work with leaves, stems, buds? Is there something in all (stems or leaves) that would be extracted??

[pflover]

serian rue, banisteriopsis caapi your legal issues prevent you form using these substances legally either. They are powerful halucinagens and unless you belong to the San Diame <sp> it is unlikely the feds would be happy if they caught you using them.

That said it is quite possble that the hamala alkaloids would infuse into the glycerin given enough time just like the cannabis recipe. i have no idea how the terpeniods find there way into the glycerin extraction.

[Yrekagrow]

i don't actualy have serian rue or b caapi, just passionflower. they (serian rue and b caapi) are in a book i had about enthobotanicals, mentioned alongside passionflower becouse they have similar properties like the harmala alkaliods, that's why i asked ... btw, arent the only illegal if they have Dmt or whatever it's called:confused: , not that it matters... just what i had read, it was an old book though, i got it from my college library it said they were unscheduled as a controled subtance in the US. it's like one of my instructors said in a handout about referances, "old info is probably wrong (or misleading) info."


also, just wanted add; the glycerin does work as a good base for the kava tincture i get from the herb and healthfood shop, i put a bit of the glycerin in with about the same amount of kava tincture in the microwave on low for 5minutes and the alcohol evaporated off from the tincture leaving the glycerin enfused with the kava. it tasted much better and had the same effet and the real plus is the alcohol being gone, even though it's a minute amount of alcohol, i would think it's much healthier.

[pflover]

heh your right according to erowid. i'm rather surprized since harmala alkaloids are weak 5-ht 2A receptor agonists meaning they produce a halucinagenic effect on their own at higher doses. the GI effects of this kind dose tho is at least somewhat prohibitive.

[Yrekagrow]

erowid huh, then maybe the old book was right... either way i'm fine with passionflower, i don't particularly want to hallucinate, i've heard that "bad trips" can be associated with stress, if thats true i would be in for a hell of a scare if i hallucinated:)

[pflover]

usually it is not about the hallucinations but the head trip but you are right. If you are not prepared to dig deep it can be very unpleasent to have such an experience when experiencing increased stress.

[Cakes]

Passion flower, syrian rue and caapri are water soluable; they can also be extracted with alcohol but the water looks good enough for most purposes. I believe those plants are usually used to potentiate the effects of a DMT dose that is ingested at a later time; they are said to triple the effects of that separately smoked DMT dose; but these plants might also have medical use on their own without the extra DMT. They have been described as being anti-depressive.


The high comes on and stabilizes after about 5 to 10 minutes or smoking. As mentioned before, it is very difficult to get higher by smoking more. If one stops at this point, the most noticeable thing would be a calm and unapprehensive state. We take particular note of this diminishing of apprehensions since we are always apprehensive before we smoke DMT so its diminution or absence is very noticeable.

The passion flower is mentally the foggiest high, but curiously has the strongest "anti-depressant" effect. This may be related to the overall mix of alkaloids in the passion flower (see below). The syrian rue was the clearest, cleanest high with the caapi being, subjectively, in between. The caapi had the least "antidepressant" effect.

dosages, extraction and the full trip report are here (http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=24241&highlight=banisteriopsis+caapi+extract).


i was wondering how the glycerin exctracts THC, also do think this would work with ...other enthobotanical herbs? (i personly have cirtain legal issues that prevent me from using MMJ to treat my ailments)The gylcerin might work for cannabis because glycerin is oil soluable and so is THC. Possibly due to the oil nature of the glycerin, tinctures made with it are said (by some) to be 30% less effective/absorbable than tinctures made with alcohol.

The gylcerin seems to have three prongs in it's molecular arrangement; each prong is tipped with two separate single oxygen molecules, the kind of single O that makes things get oxidized by attaching to them i think; so maybe those O points attach to the THC? idk. but either way, however it works, glycerin is used to make tinctures from a very wide variety of herbs.


I would think this could work with leaves, stems, buds? Is there something in all (stems or leaves) that would be extracted??yes.


if a patient needs more than 24 oz on hand to treat their condition something is fishy.Am I reading this right? are you saying that you have this opinion or that those against mj use have this opinion? because i wanted to say that if it is your opinion, i can assure you that usage above that amount is quite normal for me and there is nothing fishy about me. so i hope, if that was your opinion, that you no longer continue advocating that low (to me) limit, cause it just isn't enough and it would be a bad solution for me.

[Cakes]

someone was asking about a topical application earlier and i just came across this:

White Rasta's Topical Ointment
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Dear All,

Here's a terrific ointment that can be amended depending upon whether you want to treat burns, infections, joint pain, etc. It's titled "anti-cancer" lotion which I imagine refers to it's ability to block UV induced skin damage.

Yours,
dr. jay

WR's Cannabalm (anti-cancer) Ocean of Lotion

All who have tried this on burns and other skin irritations will attest to it's effectiveness. The first part is a version I created using Emu oil, it is an aromatic light oil (like suntan oil) the second portion describes how to turn the oil or any Cannabis oil (recomended; jojoba, hemp, olive, almond, etc.) or fat (ghee, emu, lard) into a smooth lotion which can be scented and ingredients such as Vitamin E can be added (as well as other good skin herbs such as aloe): First the Emu prep; Here ya go the Emu oil is important due to it's ability to penetrate the skin fully. And yes I have a special batch of emu goo mixed with tiger balm it tis da Bomb (pun intended)

well I took 1L emu oil and infused 140g resinous leaf and small bud in a double boiler with 1 pt of anhydrous isopropanol for 1 hr and filtered. then added 2 cups STRONG tincture of cannabis, 1 cup olive oil, 1 oz patchouli oil (smells good) and 1 tablespoon of lecithin disolved in 1/2 cup tincture of calendula. yield 1.5 liters greenish lotion type oil with a pleasent yet green aroma.

First trial 2 tablespoons rubbed vigorously over pulled shoulder and collar bone region(pectoral ,neck ,shoulder, deltoid, rt side only):

First notice a mild waming in region, also stiffness seems less in my hands in the first 15 minutes after 30 minutes feel a very comfortable "glow", almost opioid, speading from the region of application. whole region feels loose and comfortable, especially the region where the dr's split my collarbones for heart surgery, this area has never completely recovered from the operation and gives me a lot of pain when I do strenuous activity (wood splitting,overhead work). So far at 45 mins post application this area seems to be much releived. Also this lotion is pleasent to the skin and seems to penetrate very well as my skin does not feel "greasy" at all. I have several samples prepared to give to several joint painsufferers to try.

I will post their responses as they comment (he didn't post), but so far this is the best topical delivery I've come up with to date and will persue this avenue of harm reduction for arthritic users. I think there are other substances that could speed absorbsion. Also the slightly green aroma could be worked with but all in all I call the Emu oil delivery an astounding success when compared with the many other fats and oils I've used in the past. (first posted 9/6/2001)

Next i will outline how to take a basic Cannabis oil or fat and turn into a smooth creamy lotion;

Ingredients

24.0 oz distilled H2O (water)

4.0 oz strong cannabis oil or fat

1.2 oz emusifying wax

1.2 oz cosmetic grade stearic acid

1.0 oz liquid vegetable glycerin

.3 oz germaben ( a natural preservative necesarry to prevent spoilage/rancidity)

.3 oz essential oil of your preference (remember the smell your already working with and try to compliment it)

For a cooling sunburn lotion menthol crystals can be added in place of/with the essential oils

Instructions;

Heat all ingredients in a double boiler until melted then whisk until creamy. Add the last two ingredients and whisk thoroughly.

Pour while warm into bottles.

Makes aproximately 32 oz.

All ingredients except the cannabis (and the emu oil and ghee) can be found at

www.glorybee.com

Ph 1:800:456:7923

Also I came across a post where someone was using honey oil mixed with gylcerin<so that is a good way to make extra strong solutions.

[twoguysupnorth]

what is glycerin actually? i know i could look it(and will) up but i am here. what is a common material that can be used and how does it work? lol, i am not asking much am i? for now, i use vodka to get a tincture(swamp water) it works well but alcohol is one of my problems along with body pain and a nausious stomach in the morning. i only use at night. thanks for any info.