I don't think I like the Volcano...

[PharmaPharmer]

After wanting one forever and loving the effects the 2 times i used one prior t oowning one I've discovered I don't realy care for it. It kinda make me feel like I've been smoking nothing but honey oil for a week after using just one bag. I've tried higher and lower temps and even different weed but the effect is still the same. Today I only used 2 bags which is great in terms of saving my stash but it's giving me a headache every time I use it. I'm just about ready to sell it but I'll give it a few more tries before I'm certian about getting rid of it.

Anybody else not care for the effects from a Volcano?

[Steve Sarich]

I thing I've tried most of the vaporizers and I have to agree with you...the Volcano is lacking in some ways. By far my favorite is the Super Vapezilla. It won the High Times product of the year award...and it deserved it. Unfortunately, they're spendy and they don't have any wholesale or med patient pricing ($500). IMHO...they're easily worth the money if you regularly vaporize to medicate....again...just my personal experience. They use WAAAAY less meds than any other vaporizer I've used. I wish I still had one.:(

[saeon]

Is this as compared to other vaporizers, or do you mean this in general?

I don't know that I could afford to pay a fair price but I'd certainly entertain any offers of a sale.

I love my Vapor Brothers and would enjoy the bag aspect of things.....though I find that the "whip" type of vaporizer has a degree of "manual" control "by-feel" that the Volcano lacks in its greater automation.

In general, you may need to take a while to develop the skills of a vaporizer user. For one, adjusting the temperature just right.....the lowest setting that gets all of the vapor out of the bud....will improve the effects IMHO.

Also, trying using less in general. You may find that you enjoy a lighter level of effects with the cannabinoid blend you get from vaporizing.

Anyway, if you still decide to tell the volcano, I'm certainly interested!

[Clear Head C]

I also have a volcano, but do not use it all the time, I find if you want to really taste your product you have to do it on the lower temps around 5.5 or 6, since you just started using it bag should still be clean, taste can get a little bogus after a week or so with the same bag, it needs to be changed regular, when my lungs start to ache I use the volcano for a while and it clears me up

[PharmaPharmer]

Is this as compared to other vaporizers, or do you mean this in general?

I don't know that I could afford to pay a fair price but I'd certainly entertain any offers of a sale.

I love my Vapor Brothers and would enjoy the bag aspect of things.....though I find that the "whip" type of vaporizer has a degree of "manual" control "by-feel" that the Volcano lacks in its greater automation.

In general, you may need to take a while to develop the skills of a vaporizer user. For one, adjusting the temperature just right.....the lowest setting that gets all of the vapor out of the bud....will improve the effects IMHO.

Also, trying using less in general. You may find that you enjoy a lighter level of effects with the cannabinoid blend you get from vaporizing.

Anyway, if you still decide to tell the volcano, I'm certainly interested!


It's the effects of the volcano. I've used my heat gun to vape and it's always treated me well. Didn't care for the Vapor Brothers (fishtank heater in a wood box) unit as it just took forever to get medicated and has a bare metal heating element.

Volcano vaping feels more like I'm not getting the CBD/CBN but just THC regardless of the temp I use short of burning the weed. I get a headache and feel a bit cracked out like I've been smoking too much honey oil.

I've gone as high as 7.5 on the temp dial and that's just as harsh as bong and way less effective for me. Lower hasn't helped the effects either. I know others swear by them and I've been blown away the times I have used them prior to owning this one.

I'm going to keep tinkering around with it but I'm pretty sure that for me it's not going to be worth the cost and hassle. The guy I got it from was the same way but his family and roomies all loved it. My friends love it oo so I'm thinking I need a canabinoid profile I can't effectivly acheive with it.

[pflover]

I am not a huge fan of the effect of vaporizors in general. They just do not seem to medicate me as well and I get similar amounts of lung iritation to smoking because the vapor dries out my tissues it seems no matter what heat setting. I do vap once in a while but over all I just prefer the effects of smoking. I also feel that to maintain the same level of effect I have to vap more often and I use more bud than if a smoke. However the rare vap sestion is able to take me a more intense place than I usually can achieve with smoking, it just fades quickly once the session is over. la sigh. Anyway, about the volcano, of all the vaporizers I've ever used it is my fav. Second fav is the volcano valve and bag system with a good quality heat gun. I would love to own a volcano or a valve but I don't think I would used it any more often than I tend to vap currently so I haven't footed the cash for that luxury just yet. :)

glad to know I am not the only one with some issue with vaping.

One suggestion I have pharma is to use 3 bags off one plug pritty quickly, start with about 5.5 and end with 6.5. I know what you are talking about but have found doing this with at least indica dom strains can produce a less shallow effect. So far I have never experienced a worth while sativa experience with a vap. Speaking of which I should try some haze that way hehe.

[allmanjoy]

Okay I have been using the aromed for over 2 months and I love it. The digi temp control is great and I have gone from 375degrees down to 330. The flavor at 330-350 is incredible and I then save those remains and redo at higher temp 370-390. The aromed water bottle makes using like a water pipe or you can leave water out or the bowl fits into most water bongs.
I dont know if I have indica or sativa buds but the effect is different then smoking. I find it to be more of a speed type effect then couch. I dont find myself nodding out in my chair as often and actually can accomplish some work.
I have found that I need to vap about every hour 1/2 to 2 hours but the amount I am using is so small that I am still consuming less. Maybe by as much as 50% especially revapping.
Then there is the Banana bread that I can make from the remains. This added treat is incredible as it is hard to buy meds at todays prices to bake with. I wish I had know about canabutter sooner as I enjoy going to concerts and this is the best way to go to the show.
I still burn a doobie once and a while for a different level of enjoyment. I have yet to try the volcano but I dont think I could enjoy as much do to fan blowing etc. I like to take hits on my terms. A friend just picked up volcano so when I get to visit I will test it out.
I hope to get some different varities of meds to compare the effects but that is hard to do with out being able to go to co-op and hand pick.
The Hot box I started with was to harsh on lungs and burned the meds to crispy brown. The aromed remains are still green brown after 2 sessions.
I havent tried drinking the water remains but have read that it works as a tincture Anyone tried that?
Plover what is the volcano valve with heat gun? is there a link for that contraption? Also has anyone used the Lighter Vapor that doesnt produce a flame but allows you to enjoy the flavor of vapping in a bowl?
Hope you can find a good alternative to your volcano as I feel my lungs are better off vapping then smoking.
I had a headache problem a week or two ago but found it was a sinus thing not vap thing. With some advil and aspiren I felt better in a few days.

[pflover]

I have yet to try the volcano but I dont think I could enjoy as much do to fan blowing etc. I like to take hits on my terms. A friend just picked up volcano so when I get to visit I will test it out.

No offense meant but i am not sure you understand how the volcano works, hun. The vapor goes into a bag. When the bag is full you turn the fan off and remove the "bowl" from the volcano. Then you remove the bag from the bowl and attach the mouth piece. This allows you to use and enjoy the vapor trapped in the bag at your own leisure. There is no fan involved when your are taking a hit and you can take hits on your own terms. altho most users do not suggest this I do know a few people that will even fill a bag at night before bed so that they have it ready and waiting by their bed in case they wake up with pain or simply can't fall back asleep. However, most users worry about condensation of vapor if you let the bag sit for more than an hour.

[pflover]

I find the water soluable parts of cannabis to be very irritating to my throat. makes my throat burn something terrible. there IS a mild short lasting effect that can be felt after drinking tea made from cannabis. I have never tried drinking what amounts to bong water to get high even if it did come from a vaporizer instead of a bong. lol you try it and tell us! lol

here is a link to the volcano valve set. with a good quality heat gun you do not need the volcano itself but keep in mind that cheap heat guns can pose serious health risks.

http://www.vaporizers.ca/shop/item.asp?itemid=205

The following is not a volcano valve but a similar device made of glass. the picture series shows how such a valve system is used with a heat gun. It works pritty much the same with an actual volcano valve.

http://www.vaporizers.biz/Valloon.html

[OOpsie]

in the beginning I had a few headaches.. but then was told to drink lots of water.. I be. it worked.. now I drink lots of water. and some juice are times... but try ice water.. it's worth a shot

[nuevogro]

When I first tried a Volcano I loved it, then as time went by I also had the dull head ache like issue you mentioned. Also I found that the "high" of a volcano was nothing like smoking a pipe/joint/bong or whatever.

I did come up with a solution though. Put the Volcano on 9 & leave it there! I would switch it off in between bag fills though. Then only put in enough meds for a one time burn - just barely covering the bottom, or not quite covering it. Fill the bag up, and then enjoy. You can also fire the bag a second time, and I think you'll get a little bit out of it but it is light - you won't see any visible vapor with a second fill though.

Adjust your med levels up or down from that experimental point. I'm a lightweight compared to most here, so YMMV.

All toasted meds go into a jar for baked goods, but I've found there isn't really a discernable effect to these toasted bits. When put in brownies or whatever you might notice an every so slight increase in appetite, but no "high" of any kind - just gives you a base to build on.

[pflover]

neuvo, it sounds like you are getting a lot more of the total meds out of your buds with this vaping technique than most here. if the vapped bud is still at all green or even light tan i find it still as a very very powerful effect for eating but if get it dark brown it does little and does not taste good.

[nuevogro]

Yeah, post vaporized meds have that extra toasty popcorn taste. Not burnt, but definitely past prime popcorn. Works for me.

[hollowpoint]

I own a fogger, which might be the original vapezilla? I too found a different effect from its use when compared to smoking a joint. I do see where they have thier uses such as when smoking in a non-smoking zone where the smell of a J would bring unwanted attention. there's no argument from me however that my meds taste a whole lot better when fogged than when smoked.

[soulmate]

Has anyone tried to so how rig up a water attachment to a Volcano. If you could (somehow) then this may help with the dry throat and headache. The Vapoir has an attachment that does this but it will take some experimenting to do it with the Volcano set up.

[coco_artist]

My god. Putting a volcano at 9 gives me the shivers.

I start out with around a 5 or 6 and get lots out of it before I do the drastic 9 thing were you get the burnt taste and everyting. I find when my meds first get vaped they taste lemony. Then as they get too burnt they turn popcorny.

[allmanjoy]

"No offense meant but i am not sure you understand how the volcano works, hun. The vapor goes into a bag." Pflover"

yea I understand I just dont want a blower fan I like to draw my own meds.
With Aromed and bowl you can draw through water like old times or draw straight without water.;)

Temp wise I find starting low at 330 keeps the flavor for up to 5 draws then I increase slowly up to 370. After 370 I get popcorn taste after 1-2 draws.
but 1/2 teaspoon med will allow 10-20 draws.

[pflover]

There is no fan on a volcano. There is however a medical grade membrane pump (the same thing as a fish tank air pump really). I do not understand at all what you are talking about then, allmanjoy, as most of the common ways to use the volcano involve "drawing your own meds". There is no vapor being blown at you or forced down your lungs. I find your comments just a little odd form someone that has never tried the device in question.

soulmate, check out the following link. This attachment would allow you to use water filtered vapor from a volcano.

http://www.gotvape.com/store/vapor.dome.php

[Green Medicine]

Water "filtering" has a drawback...as does ice.

It cause THC to condense out of the vapor and remains trapped in the water.

Even the Aromed, which has a shallow water trap, says their product is more efficient without water filtration. If you have been generous in the growroom then it doesn't matter...just take an extra vape :)

[nuevogro]

My god. Putting a volcano at 9 gives me the shivers.

I start out with around a 5 or 6 and get lots out of it before I do the drastic 9 thing were you get the burnt taste and everyting. I find when my meds first get vaped they taste lemony. Then as they get too burnt they turn popcorny.Actually, when you use one time heated small batches there is no "burnt" smell or taste at all. It works really well, and you can taste the floura of the meds just fine. The key for me is using very little meds per bag and changing every time you fire it up.

[allmanjoy]

Pflover I was just trying to say I prefer to draw my meds vs having pump air into a bag. I don't like the noise factor of a pump either. But some people do.
I also don't like stale air smoke. I prefer a fresh hit each time. Sounds like neuvo has a good technique with the one hit. I use the aromed with and with out water but my taste buds are pretty well gone and do not see any change. I like the cool down effect of water. At 350 degrees I have flavor for about 10 draws from 1/4 teaspoon of med. Then later at 370 I get another 10+ draws. I have read that Aromed states that the loss due to water is less then the loss in a bag with more total surface etc for vapor.

Doesn't the volcano have an alluminum heating element? I wonder if there is a toxcity risk there.

I just hope the benefit from Vapping vs smoking keeps us all healthier and happy.
Has anyone tried the vaporizer that won the award in Amsterdam this year. Reviewers state it has the most intense flavor of any vapor system. I just not sure how one system can deliver a better flavor from the same med then another.

[Buffalo Bill]

Hmmmm, does it not stand to reason that before Stoz and Bickel even released the product that it was tested for toxicity. Afterall, it was made as a medical form of delivery. Besides that the Volcano is not able to get hot enough to affect Al. The volcano does not produce "stale air smoke". If fact, it is impossible for a Volcano to burn your meds so no smoke. I am happy to read that you enjoy your Aromed. I like my Vocano more than an Aromed! So there!!! As far as vaporizers go, to each his own. There is a reason, other than cost as to why there are so many different kinds and brands of vaporizers in the market. That is because there is no such thing as "the best"! Whatever works best for you should be the one that you prefer to use. Simple as that! Take care and be well......
Different strokes for different folks.....

[groo]

I thought my Volcano had been the best and cleanest way of taking meds without losing the mild pleasantry of tasting the meds. Someday I'll have it returned or replace it somehow.

I always did drink a lot of water and coffee -- especially water of late. My entire coffee intake for the day at the hospital didn't have as much caffeine as one mug of my brew. :p

[mental marijuana]

Very well said Buffalo Bill.