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Binky
05-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Stakeholder Advisory Committee on Medical Marihuana
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Monday, May 5, 2003.

On May 12, 2003, Canada's largest group of legal cannabis users and growers will present their demands to Health Canada at a meeting in Montreal. It will be at the Office of Cannabis Medical Access' (OCMA) Stakeholder Advisory Committee meeting at the Delta Centre Ville (777 University Street) on the 12th and 13th of May starting at 9am. The presentation will be conducted in the Versaille Room.

The OCMA Advisory Committee was formed in the fall of 2002 with the intent of proposing changes to the MMAR. Unfortunately, the patients - 'exemptees' and 'licencees' have never been directly consulted during this advisory process.

This is the third time that the committee has met, and it is the second meeting since Honourable Ontario Superior Court Justice Sidney Lederman declared the Health Canada program unconstitutional for only giving the "illusion of access" to medicinal cannabis. Health Canada has until July 9th to put a distribution system in place, otherwise the federal laws concerning the personal possession of cannabis will be struck down.

Health Canada's Stakeholder Advisory Committee (SAC) will be given a list of demands and concerns during the May 12th meeting by a group of patients from across Canada. The group, called the 'Medusers', would like Health Canada to address the following concerns and demands to make the program more effective and relevant:

1. Inclusion of 2 permanent representatives on the Stakeholder Advisory Committee, nominated and elected by the exemptees and licencees in the OCMA program.

2. Begin immediate distribution of the PPS cannabis to exemptees.

3. Immediate removal of the overly burdensome registration and renewal requirements.

4. Legal amnesty for all legitimate users, growers and distributors of medicinal cannabis.

5. Financial restitution to cover the cost of therapeutic cannabis.

6. The immediate addressing of the Lederman/Hitszig decision and it's consequences on the program.

"The courts have said that this program is unconstitutional. Health Canada has yet to address the very urgent needs of the 1000 Canadians signed up under the MMAR (Marijuana Medical Access Regulations)" says Philippe Lucas, an elected representative for the Medusers group.

"In over 3 years and millions of taxpayer dollars spent on the OCMA, Health Canada has never supplied a gram, joint or seed to a single suffering Canadian. It is time for Health Canada and Minister McLellan to live up to the compassionate nature of the program by implementing the immediate distribution of the Prairie Plant Systems cannabis, rather than forcing critically and chronically ill Canadians onto the streets to access their medicine."

Medusers Press/Media Contact information:

Canada western rep: Philippe Lucas (Victoria, BC)
Phone: (250) 884-9821
Email: phil@drugsense.org

Canada central rep: Alison Myrden (Burlington, ON)
Phone: (905) 681-8287
Email: myalison@cogeco.ca

Canada eastern rep: Debbie Stultz-Giffin (Bridgetown, NS)
Phone: (902) 655-2355
Email: cliff.giffin@ns.sympatico.ca

Sorry I was a little late getting this out there, just found it :D

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/meeting.html

zigzag1a
05-11-2005, 09:18 AM
theres some fairly ambitious stuff included with this stakeholders report.
i hope they get what they want.

Binky
05-11-2005, 09:51 AM
Hi Zig,

There certainly is, and the chances of them getting what they want are slim and non:(

I don't think we have much of a voice at the table, it's mostly leo and affiliations. To bad we lost our news archives because I had been reporting on this and at one time I believe we had a Doctor voicing for our side who quit in disgust of the programs one-sidedness.

nuevogro
05-11-2005, 12:12 PM
To bad we lost our news archives because I had been reporting on this and at one time I believe we had a Doctor voicing for our side who quit in disgust of the programs one-sidedness.Yes, I remember that article posted some time ago.

I sure hope this group gets at least some of those demands, but like you say it's gonna be a battle to even get them to listen. The courts evidently don't want to strike down the laws if the government can get its act together, but will they strike them down if they don't? (Courts work very much different here in the USA, so I wouldn't know exactly how that works up there.)

zigzag1a
05-11-2005, 12:26 PM
i remember last years stakeholders meeting and the hopes and wishes that were introduced at that point. for the most part (virtually completely) the medical users were ignored.
now with sativex, pps,alan young and moses znaimer looking at it for a bussiness venture i think that the med users wanting to grow their own are going to have an even more difficult time being heard.

Drizzt
05-11-2005, 01:06 PM
This article is from 2003, how is this relevant to this year?

so on July 9th, 2003, were the federal laws concerning the personal possession of cannabis struck down?

whats teh point of this?

:confused:

Binky
05-11-2005, 04:26 PM
Thanks for pointing out the 2003 date Drizzt,

I snipped it from another site and usually the info is up to date, but there's a first time for everything.

I'll do some further checking on this to try and verify this info

:)

Eaglesvision
05-11-2005, 04:35 PM
Bravo! Binky again again, thank you, I honor canada for being at least civilized
enuf to aleast say it how it is and then try to correct the problem, of course
with the help of the people. it seems to work, now maybe we can connect the head to the foot bone. He he he, i digress, sorry anyways good on all of you canada from one of your us sons. Loving Kindness Brian @ Eaglesvision

Binky
05-11-2005, 04:52 PM
Here here Brian, my thoughts exactly.

I don't hold to much faith in our Fed medpot program, with Satavex (sp) and all the other bull-shit wannabe pharmas saying its just as good as the real thing supposedly, I don't see the program going on much longer, not to mention the waste of tax-payers money trying to run the program.

They should just let us grow our own, like beer or wine which I might add kills thousands a year.

IN8I
05-12-2005, 06:53 AM
They need to leave us alone- they are admitting we were right all along by introducing a FULL PLANT EXTRACT anyways. They have lost time to collect up their jacks and go home. I hope anything good comes out of this today.

peace

-N8

micah
05-12-2005, 07:03 AM
I remember this article somewhat..there were 2 voices representing the exemptees at that time. The exempttee on the committe wouldnt event take our concerns to the table and yes the doctor did eventually resign from the committee.(he was our only voice). We were trying to get an exempttee included on the committee voted in by the other exempttes to voice our concerns but im not certain that happened (i have been out of the loop for a few yrs now as i have NO faith in the govt system any longer).
I am still a member of the meduser group and will attempt to find out what is going on...micah
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MAINE MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY (http://maine.dispensaries.org/)

micah
05-12-2005, 08:15 AM
Additional information can be found at the following site...
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/ocma/whatsnew.htm
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Home insurance forum (http://www.insurance-forums.org/home-insurance/)

Drizzt
05-12-2005, 10:04 AM
Thank you Micah :)

Binky
05-12-2005, 10:50 AM
Here's another link that you might find more info Drizzt:)


http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/

zardoz
05-12-2005, 11:09 AM
This "Stakeholder Advisory Committee on Medical Marihuana" was and remains a JOKE!

This is the current "membership list" of "EXPERT ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON MARIJUANA FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES".

Membership list

Harold Kalant MD, PhD, CHAIR

Peter Bailey MD
Harold Dion MD
Norbert Gilmore AB, PhD, MD
Angela Mailis-Gagnon MSc, MD, FRCP (C)
Carolyn M. Tayler RN, BN, MSA, CON (C)
Jack P. Uetrecht MD, PhD, FACP

Secretariat:

Louise Déry
Senior Strategic Science Advisor
Health Canada

January 2005

Do you think any ONE of them actually CARES about ANY of us? My answer is an easy NO!

Untill we have EQUAL representation on behalf of the ACTUAL medicinal users this is NOTHING MORE than "Kangaroo Court"!

With the invention of "Sativex" and other "synthesized" pharmaceutical CRAP we who choose to grow our own meds will slowly but surely see our production licenses being DENIED! Health Canada has made it more than plain that by 2008 they have every intention to completely "phase out" ALL personal production liceneses!

It is going to take MASSIVE action on the part of concerned citizens, med users AND "regular citizens" both to make our voices heard and to make change happen! If we allow this group of "Experts" to decide OUR fate.. we are surely lost.

Gord

Pothead Pete
05-12-2005, 12:55 PM
I will continue to grow my own MEDICATION!!!! When my H.I.V. and Hepatitus C is cured I will have no legitimate medical use and thus I will stop growing......until that day comes I will grow....and fight to the DEATH!!!! When are these idiots at Health Canada going to realize that marijuana is indeed a medication and not just some schoolyard way to get high and have a good time!!!! I need marijuana in order to eat and handle my nauseau associated with my H.A.A.R.T.(Highly active anti-retroviral therapy)....if it wasn't for canabis I would probably be dead by now. Cannabis allows me to take my pills on time every time and reduces the amount of nauseau associated with them. I can eat like there's no tomorrow. I will never give up my right to grow my own meds.....they would have to put me in jail first and for me that would be paramount to a DEATH SENTENCE!!!! I can see the papers now.....Health Canada sentences the 1,000 patients under it's MMAR program to DEATH for continuing to grow their own PLANTS!!!! I for one do not trust Health Canada, Prairie Plant Systems,,,,,or any street weed for that matter. When I grow my own I know EXACTLY what I used to fertilize with and I only use the best, and I also know my meds have been properly flushed. These two things may not seem important to the average layperson, but to me it means everything....life or DEATH.....I choose to live my life in the most comfortable way that I can,,, and to the best of my ability. For God's sake it's still only just a PLANT!!!! Leave the sick and dying alone. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: