Tincture/cannamist Recipe

[Carrie]

Dry heat conversion of THCA into THC:
Preheat oven to 325°f exactly (purchase an oven thermometer if you're not sure).
Take cannabis leaf or bud and spread in a thin, 1 inch layer on a clean cookie sheet.
Put in the oven for 5 minutes exactly, remove, and transfer to glass or ceramic container to cool.


Tincture/Cannamist Recipe:
Pack a mason jar loosely but completely with converted cannabis product; add a few sprigs of fresh organic mint.
Add alcohol (50% is preferred, but 40% vodka works just fine) until the jar is full.
Seal, shake and put in a dark, cool place for 2 weeks.
After 2 weeks, strain mixture through fine mesh sieve or cheesecloth. Add 2-4 tablespoons of organic honey (to taste, but without over-sweetening the mixture).
Pour into bottles fitted with fine mist spray tops.
Dosage:
Initial Dosage: Spray two times on the inside of the cheek, and wait 30 seconds before swallowing. Wait ten minutes and if desired effect has not been reached, repeat on the opposite cheek. Wait ten minutes, and repeat until desired effect is achieved. Dosage will vary between users, but should remain fairly constant once established.
Effect will last for between 1-2 hours. Repeat use as needed.
If you feel dizzy or disoriented, immediately discontinue use. Do not operate heavy machinery or drive during use of this product

[Kalidi]

interesting!!:)
Thanks for posting :D
I wonder if you could use glycerin?
Im staying away from Alchohol.;)

[thatsbetter]

Is there any value in saving the green leftovers to use as a compress for external use?

[Carrie]

Glycerine, yes! sweet glycerine can be used. Just because glycerine is more of a sugary fat, to much heat can hurt it fast. Use same method as Tinture just store the jar somewhere warm, real worm like beside the rogers box,T.v or back of desktop computer. Shake the shit out of it when ever you can:D

[thatsbetter]

Next harvest! I want to try on my arthritis feet.

[Kalidi]

Thanks for the info:)
Gonna give it a try:D
Peace

[grinkeeper]

can any one tell me what effects this tincture produces. I am looking for pain relief . I really want to find a method which doesnt do much to my head , not a fan of the phsycoactive effects .at different parts of the day I need to be very aware and alert , can you tell me if a ticture like this would be benifit or not to me.... smoking is just to powerful during the day and night times I find its a bit to much also for my head even though the body relief is good.. should I try eatables or tinctures.

[Neal]

Tinctures of alcohol and glycerin are my method, plus butter in baking. (the smell of cannabis burning is a migraine trigger I find)and I use it for relief from migraines. In my case I would say that it does get you high especially if you have to take a lot for a really bad headache. Even in small amounts you will feel some effects so I won't drive or engage in any major motor tasks. Some people have different tolerance levels and continue to do things I wouldn't. The trick is to test each batch of whatever and see how it affects you.
I am now using a glycerin (food grade organic glycerin) to make a tincture and it requires a larger amount as i experiment with it. I became afraid to use alcohol when making tincture (boiling) as it was setting off my CO detector and I figure I was close to blowing up. That would be embarrassing. Someday, when I get a gold card, I will purchase some from TCC.
This is just based on my experience and how I use it.
Neal.

[Radic]

irey post carrie
gotta love dat
i man love to sun dry me herb best tho,
yes
i make tincture too
since 1995 till now
it works for me

grinkeeper

what kind of pain ?????????
say tooth ache?????
i hate toothache
well yes cannabis tincture is great for pain relief for toothache,
Dose
depends a lot on the severity of the attack.
Few drops to a 1ml straight on the tooth whenever necessary.

THC travels to damaged nerves sites and locks in, before it reaches the brain so you won’t get stoned but you will get pain relief. And if you‘ve been there, you’ll know the euphoria pain relief can bring.

I use it for chronic back pain most
i have 7 chrushed vertabrae
i suffered from a car accident in me youth

i rub it in
and take it internally too.
depending on severity of the attack
internal dose
1ml to 4ml mixed in a small glass of water
then i scull it
yo
it works for me
every time

There are many other uses for cannabis tincture,
“In 19th century medicine, tincture of cannabis was used mostly as a sedative and antispasmodic for insomnia, migraine, epilepsy, excitability, childbirth, and menstrual discomfort. ( Weil, 1980,p.95 )

The Ancient uses of Marijuana (McKenna, 1990)
states it (cannabis) was used as a remedy for constipation, rheumatic pain, absent-mindedness, female disorders, dysentery, dandruff, headache, mania, whooping cough, earache, tuberculosis, nodes/ tumors, snake bite, asthma, muscular dystrophy.

This list is not exhaustive there’s heaps more.
The modern medical recommendations of marijuana include using it as a painkiller, anti-asthmatic, anti-convulsant, appetite promoter, anti-rheumatic, sedative, anti-diarrheal, anti-pyretic, anti-biotic and anti-tumor, yes--> anti-cancer (Mechoulam, 1990).
Excerpt From
THE BENEFITS OF MARIJUANA
By Joan Bello, a must read for all budding herbalists everywhere.

Neal
IMO
overkill bro
I never boil tincture. never.
Ethanol does need to be that hot to desolve cannabinols
body heat or 30min of direct sun is sufficient
Yo
the quickest way to make cannabis tincture is to desolve 1gram of hash oil into 100ml of Ethanol
shack it till it desolves
bout 30min
will dowit

irey guidance
Radic
Hash Oil Rulez

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[thatsbetter]

Interesting info, Radic.

[Radic]

irey thanx ThatsBetter
IMO
because of the Ethanol content,
dat is called a Mother Tincture 10X
and it would be diluted with water at 2 parts water to 1 part Mother Tincture
then used as perscribed
Pre 1936 probition laws
cannabis was used in over 80% of every US doctors perscription.
yo
Cannabis is still used medicinaly in India, China and the Middle East
IMO
most medicinal cannabis tuncture perscribed usally has a Ethanol content under 30%

any cannabis tincture above 50% ethanol is Green Dragon or Fairy Dew
which packs a punch
so use carefully

as for the potentcy
well
100cc to 10g of cannabis
so
1cc = 0.1g of cannabis

most cannabis waste i process is about 1g of hash oil per 1oz of cannabis waste
or 1cc = 0.01 cannabis
and
buds is at least twice that

so
if i use say 100ml bottel
with say 10 oz of cannabis waste or 5oz of buds
to get equal potency to the lable on that pic

as you can see to put that much herb thru 100ml of ethonal you need to do it in stages
seen
so each time you put a fresh batch of cannabis into the same 100ml of Ethanol
you get a doubbling effect indercated by the number next to the X
so
if it takes 5 times to put 5 oz thru 100ml
than that would be called a 5X extract
and so thats how you get your THC potenicy up and the Ethanol levels down

the more times you do it
the more potent it is

irey guidance

[thatsbetter]

Sounds like the tinctures of old were powerful medicine. I have arthritis in my feet, hips, shoulders and neck. I also suffer from depression, anxiety attacks and crohn's disease. A good tincture sounds like good medicine to me.

[nedrgger]

can any one tell me what effects this tincture produces. I am looking for pain relief . I really want to find a method which doesnt do much to my head , not a fan of the phsycoactive effects .at different parts of the day I need to be very aware and alert , can you tell me if a ticture like this would be benifit or not to me.... smoking is just to powerful during the day and night times I find its a bit to much also for my head even though the body relief is good.. should I try eatables or tinctures.

Having just completed a pass at glycerin tinctures that Subcool posted, (THANKS SUBCOOL!!!!) and I can say that it works very well. I have been giving it out to all my card carrying friends to give me feedback. Everyone has come back stating that it works very well for pain and insomnia. One friend even tried it as a salve with outstanding results. Not being able to smoke during the day as it puts me under, I use the tincture and it really takes care of my degerative disk disease pain in my lower back without being oppresive. I have the same issue with smoking or vaping during the day. I work for a major computer manufacturer and can't consult when I'm high. The tincture is a Godsend and I highly recommend it to anyone. No psycho-active issues with tinture but it goes right to the pain. I really enjoy the glycerin tincture over the alcohol as it goes down much easier and doesn't burn at all. I think that a tincture would do you very well, Grinkeeper. It has me. :-)

[Carrie]

Tincture's using Ethanol alcoohol

Ethanol or 95 proof is great and what we use at centre. Just after the 2 weeks (No longer!) when all filtered , you must bring the percent to at least 60 %, so it does not burn your mouth.To do that add de-mineralized or distilled water.

[thatsbetter]

Does it burn after it is down to 60%.

[Carrie]

Yes!, this makes the drops mild enof to put directly in mouth. If no water is added to the drops ,they should be added to a drink instead. Even 60% still burns under the tongue, pure 95% can burn your mouth, for reasons why it's not the most avalible product to just anyone. Just be safe with this product when it's 95% and don't even smoke a spliff around it until it's diluted.
Also very important to not let the tincture go to long, I never go a day over 2 weeks with this 95% alcohol or it with start tasting like turpen's(turpentine)

[Radic]

Yes true Carrie
i mostly have it mixed in drinkz

straight is strictly for tooth ache
and............. some times i rub it in topicaly
it stings on open sores and wonds
but it seals and heals very quickly

dry healing
which can sometimes leave a scar

i prefier Cannabis ointment
for wet healing
which tends to heal without scar tissue and no sting

your right tho
there is futher processes to render it more palatable
what i make is better called --->Mother tincture
or green dragon

i leave the chlorophill in too

as for time
yes i have found the 2 wks to be best too
after that it starts to pick up too much of well, lotza other tings
yo!
but we have som stiff opersition round here
some locals have some 10yr old Tincture
i have to admit
it is very yummy

there are other ways of increasing the THC content too

most cannabis waste i process i get about 1g of hash oil per 1oz of cannabis waste
and that will goven the strength of my tincture
so if i use the same tincture i just made,
as a solvent to extract another dry 1oz for another 2wks
i can doubble the THC content in the tincture
i can do this up to 10 times
and then i only need 3 or 4 drops
for the same effect
we call diss one 10X
or fairy dew

irey guidance

[Radic]

Oh i shoulda mentioned
the quickest way to make tincture is to mix 1g of hash oil with 100ml of your fave Ethanol
takes about 20min

Guidance

[grinkeeper]

Having just completed a pass at glycerin tinctures that Subcool posted, (THANKS SUBCOOL!!!!) and I can say that it works very well. I have been giving it out to all my card carrying friends to give me feedback. Everyone has come back stating that it works very well for pain and insomnia. One friend even tried it as a salve with outstanding results. Not being able to smoke during the day as it puts me under, I use the tincture and it really takes care of my degerative disk disease pain in my lower back without being oppresive. I have the same issue with smoking or vaping during the day. I work for a major computer manufacturer and can't consult when I'm high. The tincture is a Godsend and I highly recommend it to anyone. No psycho-active issues with tinture but it goes right to the pain. I really enjoy the glycerin tincture over the alcohol as it goes down much easier and doesn't burn at all. I think that a tincture would do you very well, Grinkeeper. It has me. :-)

that is very incouraging news and I greatly thank you for your reply to my question. I really appriciated everyones posting of information on this as I am very new to the alternative methods of cannabis so I really appriciate any advice.. I know that there is a recipe in t.y. for a alcohol tincture and I thought there was one for glycrin also. I would really prefer Not making an alcohol tincture as I do not drink AT ALL and really avoid the taste at all costs ,so I dont think I could handle it...

if anyone has a link for the best glycrin & alcohol methods
I would really find it useful..

question. I did make some cannabutter for the first time last night and havent cooked with it yet as I am not sure of the dosages.. I have posted the info in another thread today . But I was wondering if I could get similar effects if I put some cannabutter in capsules.. I think its potent as I used a 1/2oz of top grade "a" BUDS[BUBBLEBERRY] GROUND WITH A COFFEE GRINDER... i USED 1/2POUND OF BUTTER AND SIMMERED FOR AND HOUR THEN CHEESE CLOTHERE THE LOOSE MATERIAL AND DRAINED INTO A CONTAINER AND IN THE FRIDGE IT WENT...It looks pretty good and seeing the buds were so strong I am a bit worried about amount to use with a betty crocker cookie mix which makes 24 cookies.. or like I said before should I try a capsule of the butter first..

I really dont want to have a bad effect.. I know tonight isnt a good night to try as I have taken cesamet for the first time.. so far not bad relaxed state and a bit of a dry mouth but still 100% handling it fine.. small amount of pain relief so far but its only been 1.5hours.. I think it might take longer..

funny thing is the lit that the rx came with stated that this thc synthetic is addictive and you can have severe withdrawl if taken for long time then stopped the cesamet.. thats sort of strnge seeing its based around mj isnt it..

[thatsbetter]

Sounds like some strong Cannabutter. I would try some on some toast with some jam to get the feel of the strength. Smokin' Moose has a recipe for suppositories that are suppose to be very effective.

[grinkeeper]

maybe I made it to strong.. should I cut another 1/2 pound of butter back into it by heating it make up to mix the non med butter together..

how much should I try for a test.. I really dont want to be to messes up the first time I try it, i dont want a bad experience that will turn me off the whole thing, I am not wanting a head buzz or really any buzz, just the pain relief effects with as little mental effects as I can...I want it to improve my conditions of pain and not make me completely un functional like some of the smoke does

[Radic]

Irey Grin


I would really prefer Not making an alcohol tincture as I do not drink AT ALL and really avoid the taste at all costs ,so I dont think I could handle it...

i dont drink alcohol for fun

the alcohol has a medicinal job to do
that is to carry the THC into your blood
Alcohol is the second fastest way to get THC into your blood
it should start working within 5min

you do not need much alcohol to achieve this
a small amount of alcohol can carry a large amount of THC
to get some perspective on the amount of alcohol in each dose

1ml of Tincture = 3ml of Vodca or wisky or rum (3/4 of a tea spoon)
a full nip of vodca or rum is 30ml

If i take more than 4mil of tincture i will start to feel the alcohol
but that all depends pon my total blood weight
and how accute my pain is
if you suffer chronic pain like me
than here is how it works for me

i will not get very stoned from the THC because
the amount of THC in my blood will get thinned out before it reaches my brain
by getting locked into damaged nerve sites.
THC will get locked into sites there
and therefore the THC level in my blood will drop and less will reach my brain

some will still reach my brain tho
and i believe
that the stone is a big part of the healing
if you need to heal
you have to feel good about it
and that is a big part of the healing

if you have liver problems like HepC
than alcohol is a definate NO
go for Glycerine
yo
the best way i have found the get rid of the alcohol is to put it in your Hot drink
like tea, coffee or milk or coco, and let the alcohol evaporate for a minute or 2 before you drink it


1/2oz of top grade "a" BUDS[BUBBLEBERRY] GROUND WITH A COFFEE GRINDER... i USED 1/2POUND OF BUTTER

Budz1/2oz = 1g hash oil
1g of hash oil into 8oz of butter
so 1oz of butter = 1/8 of a gram of hash oil
1/2 oz of butter = 1/16
etc
dose rate is strictly a personal ting
it depends a lot pon serevity of the pain
and body weight
self medicating does involve some expermentation to find the best dose rates
dont worry
if you do take more than your body can handle (Over Dose)
you will not die
most likely just fall asleep
and wake up refreshed from a painless sleep
THC is 100% safe
forward Cannabis
Heal the People
Heal the Land

irey guidance

[thatsbetter]

I would spread some on a cracker with some jam, enjoy then wait to see the effects. If not strong enough, then another cracker. This will give you some kind of idea as to how much you need for the results you are looking for.

[nedrgger]

that is very incouraging news and I greatly thank you for your reply to my question. I really appriciated everyones posting of information on this as I am very new to the alternative methods of cannabis so I really appriciate any advice.. I know that there is a recipe in t.y. for a alcohol tincture and I thought there was one for glycrin also. I would really prefer Not making an alcohol tincture as I do not drink AT ALL and really avoid the taste at all costs ,so I dont think I could handle it...

if anyone has a link for the best glycrin & alcohol methods
I would really find it useful..


Well, I tried to put in the link but I haven't posted enough to do it. :( But if you search for glycerin tincture, you will find the post by SubCool that has all the instructions and some great pics to boot! SubCool rocks and that is the recipe that I followed. Works brilliantly. Good luck!

[Radic]

Here it is
http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=26633

[nedrgger]

Thanks Radic! I appreciate your posting this!

[grinkeeper]

thanks from me to everyone that has been helping with this thread... I have been enjoying pain relief finally due to the fact I have a extreme vaporizer.. its flippen amazing unit.. remote control , lcd display.. , really works great..

but I am still having questions about what temps to vap dry meds and fresh meds,, and when the unit has vaporized everything in the chamber.. I guess its something you get used to..

on another note.. I tried the medables cookies for the first time last night but I only did half a cookie, it wasnt enough so tonight it will be a whole cookie to try..

[thatsbetter]

Enjoy those cookies!

[Radic]

greetnz
i have noticed some people are storing their tincture in the fridge
no no
please
never store alcohol tincture in the fridge
it can be dangerous
explosive even

alcohol wont freeze
so
in a confined space like a fridge
fumes can build up
and a spark from the electric motor = Bang
it has been known to happen
so
remember
never store alcohol tincture in the fridge

irey guidance