cooking with cannabis help

[talwin]

i was curious whats the easiest and fastest way to cook with cannabis. i have made butter before and it wasn't too hard but the recipie I had at the time was for a huge amount, I ended up with a whole pot of cannabutter (not a bad thing) but it was too much for me and took too much time. is there an easier way to make cannabutter?

is there an alternative to cannabutter? can i just add the bud into the baked good recipie and good with it or will it not release the thc?

thanks,
talwin

[Diskrete]

Just make the amount of butter you need for a recipe! for instance if it calls for 1/2 cup of butter than use a 1/2 cup of butter and put in however much bud you want. let it cook on low for about an hour, strain it into your goods and bake! you can also just throw it in, but in my experience it tends to make people sick with nausea having so much plant matter.

[TwistedSister]

In issue 13 of treatingyourself magazine there is one of the best recipes i have ever found and have been using now since this winter!!! so give that recipe a try my friend!!

peace
Twisted Sister

[Unicorn]

You can add just dried ground product to any recipe. I found doing trial and error, you figure out what works best.

Also with butter, you can freeze it once you make it, you can devide it out into 1/4 or 1/2 cup portions, so all you do is pull out the amount you need, thaw and away you go.

Enjoy and let us know how you made out...Hugs Uni ;)

[Free 2 b me]

Since being on treatment for Hep C, I've grown very fond of "green milk" because it's so easy to make, doesn't take all your meds to cook with, and it lasts quite awhile because only need to drink about an oz or 2 of milk and I'm good to go for a good 6 hours. Really good sleep meds as well.....and I've started making homemade ice cream with it, which is also wonderful and easy on the tummy. I make my green milk with a quart (or so) of whole milk and 3.5 - 4 grams of med grade herb. (grind up herbs well) As soon as it comes to a boil, turn it down and simmer for an hour, stirring every 5-10 mins and be careful not to burn. Cook for an hour and then cut the heat and allow to come to room temp again, then strain, bottle and use as you want. Makes a nice creamer, small shot with choc works well, and of course ice cream is always yummy. (I keep my milk covered while cooking, I find it doesn't get that "skin" on it that way) Also, I've been making budder and/or oil as I'm able in my crockpot. I grind my herb, add in the butter and water, turn on the crockpot and bring to boil, then turn down and allow to cook for anywhere from 4-10 hours depending on what I've got to do, strain and put in the frig. Once the budder/water mixture cools, it seperates and the top is pure cannabutter without all the chlorphyll and other stuff in there. If you just add herb to your food, (frome everything I've tried, heard about, or read, I'm assuming that would work fine too as long as you don't mind the roughage and your recipe has some sort of fat in it. (milk, butter, oil, etc) Hope this helps. :)

Peace and One Love,
Free:cool:

[talwin]

hey that milk idea really intersted me so i found this recipe
http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/showthread.php/green-milk-recipe-4252.html

i ended up using 2 cups of milk and 5 grams of AAA cannabis and ended up with aabout 1/4cup of cannabis milk.

my question is how much cannabis milk should i expect? was my yield okay or did i do something wrong? when you use aa quart or whatever how many cups of cannamilk do you end up with?

thanks.

[groo]

Guess I'll have to do some reading on cannabutter and medibles. I've got this big bag of shake... ;)

[groo]

Looks like some people make things more complex than they need to be:

Melt margarine/butter in water, bring to a simmer.

Add ground shake. Mix thoroughly.

Simmer for 4-12 hours, depending on who you want to believe.

Strain.

Cool until the butter hardens and floats so you can skim it off.

[groo]

First batch o buddah simmering on the stove... sure does put out a "green" odour when made with shake. It's gonna be plenty pungeant in here by the time 4 hours have rolled by and it's getting on to 21h00 my time.

[groo]

I only let it simmer for 2 hours. It was extracting this most distressingly green colour from the stuff, so I decided that maybe it wouldn't be quite so green tasting if I didn't simmer it the full 4 hours.

So now I've about 1/2 c of margarine buddah. It's looking very green.

However, I won't be trying it tonight, as it's almost bedtime and would be a tremendous waste to tie into it right now. Tomorrow is another day (and maybe a pay day), so I'm hoping for a butter-heavy brownie mix some time tomorrow afternoon. :)

[Free 2 b me]

Talwin,
Normally, I get back most of what milk I've used. There's some natural loss from the milk because you just can't physically squeeze every drop from the spent herb, but I sure try....lol. I use cheesecloth to strain with and I normally get really close to the amount I put in. (Normally I'll put in a little extra milk as well...once you've made it once or twice and get comfortable, other than the constant stirring, it is an easy recipe.) I do believe that's where I originally found the recipe, but then I found one that called for using half the amount of medicine, so I tried that one and found it worked for me quite nicely. Because my milk has always turned out fine is why I go ahead and follow that recipe to the letter as far as allowing the milk to come to room temp after cooking. I don't know if it really makes a difference or not, but I never have enough meds to just play around and I've never wanted to chance it. I'd think that your milk would be good medicine Talwin...and since it sounds like it's condensed a bit, try a smaller amount as well when ya go to drink it. You can always drink more in 20-30 mins. (seems like green milk works faster also than eating something medicated) Again, hope it helps and hope you enjoy what ya made, T. :)

Peace and One Love,
Free:cool:

[talwin]

well i tried the green milk. i tried it twice and it did work for more of a body effect however both times i did not take enough because I was scared i might take too much. i used a strainer for mine. i think the problem i had was once the simmering was basicly done, alot of the milk had been absorbed into the cannabis and even straining it couldn't get it out. however what i had i think was extremley concentrated because the taste was pretty bad. the cannabis taste was very very very strong so what I did was i took a few teaspoons of the cannamilk or green milk and i made some hot cocoa. even with extra cocoa, sugar, and vanilla the green milk taste was still pretty strong so i think next time i make it i'm going to have to add some more milk.

i also had a question for you. i was reading somewhere what people do instead of adding the cannabis directly to the milk is they put it in a empty teabag or make a teabag like thing from cheesecloth. would this work as well? i figure it would be easier to strain and this way my meds wouldnt soak up too much milk.


thanks again,
talwin

[groo]

...even straining it couldn't get it out.

The thing with making butter or milk is that you need to squeeze the wad of plant matter in cheese cloth, a tea towel, or some other such thing to get those last bits of goodness out. Be careful -- it'll be hot!

[groo]

For my efforts, a 9x13 pan of brownies just went in the oven. I used the buddah I made yesterday instead of the 1/3 cup oil. Man did that butter/margarine ever turn out green!

Should be a fairly potent batch -- about 2-3 cups of shake went into the butter.

[groo]

Test time!

Just chowed down on 1/8 of a pan worth of brownie. You can still emphatically taste the green in it, though the excess chocolate of a deluxe brownie mix does cover up most of it. Still, you'd have to be a complete moron to eat a whole piece and not realize there was something "different" about it!

Think I might walk over to a friend's place tonight and give them a brownie to sample. They like pot and they love chocolate, so it should go over pretty well...

[groo]

Yep. 1/8th of a pan is a nice healthy dose, gets a body buzz hummin', little bit of lethargy along with it. If you overdo it, I could see this putting you to sleep.

But there is no getting around the overwhelming flavour of pot to the brownie. A distinct flavour unto itself, eh? :cool:

[Free 2 b me]

Talwin,
Oh yeah, I appologize for not specifying what to expect. :o That's why I prefer medibles to smoking for daytime usage or bedtime. Lesser amounts during the day...lol;) but that's why I find it better for myself to ingest my meds. It helps so much with my spasms and it helps with my pain levels, as well as the nausea and achiness and yucky side effects from the Pegasys/Copegus treatment. It's definitely a body high and not so much a head thing. Obviously, in the evening or if I know I don't have to be anywhere soon, I'll take a toke or 2, but often that leaves me coughing which induces a whole new level of pain. The first time I ever made it I was so afraid that I'd mess it up or that it wouldn't work, but fortunately that turned out NOT to be the case. In fact, I keep forgetting to tell you (especially if you think you'll cook with it later) to take anything you don't think you'll drink or use b4 it spoils, pour the rest of the milk into an ice cube tray and after it's frozen solid, dump out the cubes and store in your freezer in a baggie. It'll keep quite a long time this way...not sure how long because they've never stayed in my freezer that long.......lol. One other tip that I learned the "hard way" is not to use full on whipping cream or half & half because when they come to a boil, they tend to seperate and it can get pretty funky looking and pretty disgusting skins on the cream and I've found whole milk works just as well without all the added disgustingness. Not knowing how you tolerate medibles, how strong your meds were, etc. it sounds like you did the smartest thing and tried out a little first. It's better than drinking too much and then getting sick....kinda defeats the solution.....lol. I'd say it sounds like you did a great job and I've gotten to the point where the one pan I use for making milk (cuz it's big enough and has a lid that fits) I just fill it and add 10-14 grams if I have it (or kief or both) and my milk always comes out great. Yesterday I had some milk that was on the verge of heading south and I decided to make ice cream. I had some fresh strawberries, so I put them in the blender with some honey and sugar (I had already infused the green milk with vanilla pod) and made the most creamy, non-cannabis tasting creation I've ever made I think. Anyway, hope this helps Talwin....I know for me having to live on my small disability pension, just paying the bills of everyday life can be daunting enough, much less trying to scrape up extra $$ for meds. So, I'm very careful with my meds and once in awhile, if someone gives me trim or something they've got and don't want, then I'll play with recipes a bit more. It's hard to think that I might waste my meds doing stuff I'm not that familiar with, but this is pretty foolproof. Oh yeah, regarding the straining.....I use a strainer and line it with cheesecloth, pour everything thru, and once it's gotten to a slow drip, bring the cheesecloth up by the corners, and squeeze, squeeze, squeeze. Also, yes I find that I have to add choc syrup also if I'm drinking it straight. It's an acquired taste for sure, but with choc in it, I can "chug" it down and it sure doesn't burn like a bad Tequila....lol. ;) But again, I can get one of those tall mugs down and fill it 3/4 of the way with Earl Grey and honey and green milk and my day has started on a very nice note. :D:D:D Again, hope it helps Talwin.

Peace and One Love,
Free:cool:

[talwin]

could you perhaps give me that link you use for the milk, the efficient one.

[talwin]

just thought id update. i tried it again this evening. i used 3/4 2% milk and 1% whole milk with about 3-4gs or AAA cannabis (mostly indica). i simmered it for about 20 minutes and then what i did was add a couple teaspoons of cocoa, some sugar, and finally vanilla after the cocca and sugar had been mixed and simmered for about 10 minutes. i then took the pot off and strained it with a strainer, i got about 1 and 1/2 cups of cannabis cocoa. the taste of cannabis was still evident and within 20 minutes the effects started kicking in. its been about 1 and a half hours and its working well, i still think i would like it stronger but im pretty sure its because of my high tolerance. its more of a body buzz and my back and stomach feel more relaxed, kind of like a narcotic type of feeling. i think i may smoke on top of this just to add more pain relief but i think ill wait to see if it begins to get stronger. if anyone needs better directions i don't mind explaining in more detail.

[Shadimar]

I've made brownies in the past using olive oil, although they do say olive oil will break down with high heat and become a less healthy option, I'm just not willing to ingest other kinds of oil. The first time I went for the extra fiber and had a great time telling the same damn joke all night long
{munch munch} Hey.. you know what guys? Know what we should do? After this.. let's make some brownies!
The last time I made a tray I simmered the oil then filtered out the plant matter and produced a tray of normal-textured brownies with a canna essence. I found them to be an excellent sleep aid and it was one of the last times I had a full night of uninterrupted sleep, usually I can only get a half hour or 45 minutes at a time.

I think I'll try the chocolate cannamilk, it sounds easier for me to tolerate than a tray of brownies and perhaps less chance of accidental usage by others (you know how it is with chocolate). Food is also a problem for me so liquid tends to be easier as the thought of eating a chocolate chunk brownie to kill nausea has its drawbacks.

It'll have to wait a few months though, I'm just barely going to scrape by on shake and lint by the time I can refill my mason jars again but at least I'm still going.