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Rickkus
07-19-2009, 12:12 PM
So far the seeds arrived on time and appropriately labeled and handled. About a week's delivery. So far so good. Haven't germinated yet. We'll see.

Tank
07-20-2009, 02:50 AM
Rickkus, What did you order and how much did they charge you per bean ??

Richi420
07-20-2009, 06:10 AM
I'm still on the fence on single seed sales. Many times I've planted 10 or so and just got one that was a keeper, personally I would be a bit bummed if it wasnt a keeper.Some people might get a bad impression about a stain because of this too,maybe. Anyways theres my little rant, so to speak,lol. Keep us posted, very intereted in which strain(s) you recieved and how much it ended up costing. But great news to hear that you got them and quick too,which is always a plus.Good luck on your grow.Peace

Rickkus
08-11-2009, 01:52 PM
I got my Jack Herer through this company and paid about $31. So far, after 16 days, it's got 5 internodes, 6" tall and 8-9" wingspan. Not bad so far.

Rynvillen
08-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I got my Jack Herer through this company and paid about $31. So far, after 16 days, it's got 5 internodes, 6" tall and 8-9" wingspan. Not bad so far.

$31 for one seed? That is kinda expensive isnt it? Considering thats what Peakseeds charges for a pack

Rickkus
08-12-2009, 06:52 AM
Nope.

$31 for one Jack Herer seed is worth the money. It came with a cut/clipping from the packaging of the original supplier.

You can buy $2 seeds if you like, but I've tried the Jack through a compassion club and these genetics are worth the money. Thing is, if you want the genetics, you have to pay.

I've grown from bagseed, and from cheap seeds, and for me, good genetics is cheap insurance.

I chose to pay $31. There are other seeds through Single Marijuana Seeds Canada that are cheaper, around the $5 mark if anyone's interested, they just come from lesser known breeding companies. I bet they sell $2 seeds too.

Thing is, if you get good genetics, you have something of real value.

Rickkus
08-12-2009, 08:18 AM
I also received the following:

Nirvana Special was $3.30 x 2, and El Nino was $9.90 x 1.

Roy
08-12-2009, 09:20 AM
I hope you have better luck than I did with this company.

I ordered, I think it was 17 seeds in total, from this company with very poor results. I ordered several different strains one seed at a time and also a whole package of 10 "Big Bang" seeds in their original package. I thought everything was good until I tried to pop them. Now let me inform you that I have over 20 grows to my credit so I am not new to this in any way.

Results were that 1 seed is growing ("El Nemo") all the rest did not pop. I can only think that the seeds they sent were the real deal but might have been very, very, very old stock.

So with a success ratio of 1 out of 17 I don't think that I will be ordering from these folks any time soon!

I hope things work out for you better than they worked out for me.

Good luck!


:cool:

Rickkus
08-13-2009, 09:17 AM
Yeah I'd be quite pissed if that happened to me.

I'd promptly write a really friendly Letter of Complaint to them, if it were me Roy, and inject into the letter the fact that we're discussing their company on our bulletin board presently. Who knows? Maybe they'll replace the seeds and turn that frown upside down. :)

I ordered 4 seeds and 2 of them popped (Jack Herer and Nirvana Special), but I had contamination of the germination medium caused by a black fungus that encircled the seeds as it reached the 4-5 day mark. Rather than transplant them to a new media, I let them sit in it, moist, for the last day and then dumped them. I attributed this low germination rate to my own methods. Later I read that some seeds can take up to 10 days to pop, and wrote off the experience to inexperience. I prematurely dumped them rather than clean up the medium and properly contain the problem. I also didn't use gloves when handling the wet media, which can be problematic (I'm a smoker with house pets).

As it stands, I'm still immensely pleased so far, despite the 50% success rate. I've rationalized it.

I've had seeds last for a couple of years, but the germination rate dropped as time progressed. I think you've got a good reasonable case for getting some satisfaction from these guys Roy.

Rickkus
08-13-2009, 09:55 AM
The reason I mention the letter is that one chap I know, who sells seeds, replaces (and tops up or 'makes right') customer seeds when there's a poor germination rate, or breakage of the shell, that sort of thing. Surely a larger company like Single MSC can manage replacement or refund in order to keep customers happy.

If they do nothing, they risk getting tagged publicly (e.g., public humiliation) for being unresponsive to customer complaints (maybe even fraudulent, I suppose). If they stroke you like they should, they enjoy a favorable review in places like this one.

Rockster
08-13-2009, 10:21 AM
Nope.

$31 for one Jack Herer seed is worth the money. It came with a cut/clipping from the packaging of the original supplier.

You can buy $2 seeds if you like, but I've tried the Jack through a compassion club and these genetics are worth the money. Thing is, if you want the genetics, you have to pay.

I've grown from bagseed, and from cheap seeds, and for me, good genetics is cheap insurance.

I chose to pay $31. There are other seeds through Single Marijuana Seeds Canada that are cheaper, around the $5 mark if anyone's interested, they just come from lesser known breeding companies. I bet they sell $2 seeds too.

Thing is, if you get good genetics, you have something of real value.


30 bucks a seed? No way bro,just no flaming way!

And hyped up Jack Herer?

In my books anything over $10 dollars a seed is exploitation.

We've got to hit back at these rippers offers,it's just not right!

America,unfortunately does us no favours when it comes to rip off seed prices.

And when I last looked Sensi Seeds Jack herer was around 150 euro's a packet of 10.

These single seed chumps just add to inflation.

Not impressed.

elfstone
08-14-2009, 12:19 AM
Sensi seeds won't sell directly to USA, so we have to find other alternatives. Attitude seeds or Worldwide seeds in UK are a good alternative, since Single Seeds Canada won't ship to USA either.

Rickkus
08-14-2009, 02:57 AM
And when I last looked Sensi Seeds Jack herer was around 150 euro's a packet of 10.

These single seed chumps just add to inflation.

lol yeah but, see, I didn't have the 150 Euro for a pack of 10. I got mine from I think Sensi Seeds. $150 Euro converts to $230 CAD.

$230/10 = $23/seed - I paid $31. I think that's just fine, personally. :) Here's a pic of Jack:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg66/phattuurbo/001-9.jpg

Seems to me the best way to keep prices down, as a group, is to keep good genetics amongst medical users. My plan is to make a lineage of excellent hybrids and cross breeds suitable for medical consumption. The risk of a strain like Jack Herer isn't in the price, it's in making a cross breed or hybrid that is suitable in terms of yield and cycle time. The price, $31, isn't really so bad when you consider Jack is a top ranked strain with definite medical benefits.

Is Jack hyped up? Perhaps. But I've tried Jack Herer and it heals what ails me, so the hype is real for me. :D It ain't ruderalis or biker weed.

Rickkus
08-14-2009, 03:38 AM
In my books anything over $10 dollars a seed is exploitation.

True, but we live in a capitalistic world, so exploitation is, to some extent, unavoidable. The trick is in choosing those times you're being exploited very carefully. I, for example, won't pay a dime a seed for shitty weed that doesn't help me. Since I want a strain that I can breed up to be a good producer of the right or correct product, I feel no sense of exploitation from those who supply me the means to do so, providing I can afford their price.

I like Jack Herer for three reasons:

1. Helps my appetite;
2. Helps for nausea;
3. Helps attenuate or modulate my affect and anxiety.

As far as I'm concerned, as a person who takes care in breeding, $31 makes sense. I'd feel quite 'exploited' if someone suggested I trade (say) Jack Herer x Grapefruit seeds for some AK47 seeds - it just wouldn't be a fair trade because that particular strain might not have the healing properties I require. My objective isn't to merely get stoned, it's to get 'properly' stoned with the 'correct' product.

bullhunter
08-18-2009, 12:40 PM
First and Last order from this place...BUYER BEWARE!!!!!

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Hi...new to all this. I recently ordered 5 white rhino, 5 snow whites and 5 aurora indica seeds from this company MARIJUANA SEEDS CANADA. They arrived in good time, decently packaged etc. First I must say that I have been growing since 1968. I have lived and grown in Mexico and here in Costa Rica. I am a medical marijuana user (for my heart) and have been ripped off by NIRVANA and some other companies. I had a lot of hope with this place. Anyways, I soaked the seeds for 24hours, placed them in paper towels for 72 hours (no broken or sprouted beans and then went to soil. NO SPROUTS WHATEVER!!!!! Yesterday (day 15) I looked throught the soil and no sprouts whatsoever. I wrote the company (as I had sent them another order and wanted to ask about replacements...shit does happen and I know we are dealing with organic life) anyways they replied that I need to get ahold of NIRVANA as they DO NOT REPLACE nor do they discuss germination etc as per their disclaimer!!!! I asked them to please keep my shipping and handling and to send me back the money I sent for the new order. My personal thought is to ONLY or4der from producing seed companies and those that allow you to complain and to get some help. Sending me to NIRVANA for a product that they sold me is ABSURD and shows they could give a F&%K for the customer. Save your money and go elsewhere...BUYER BEWARE

Rickkus
08-19-2009, 09:04 AM
Bullhunter how do you know Marijuana Seeds Canada is the same company as Single Marijuana Seeds Canada? Can you please explain?

Thanks, Rick

bullhunter
08-20-2009, 11:18 AM
Rick, Thanks for the energy. I guess occasionally getting ripped off is part of this bullshit !!! I am still unable to post URLīs so just google MARIJUANA SEEDS CANADA and there you have it

I wrote them an extra polite email stating WITHOUT mentioning germination or sprouting (they will immediately delete your emails for doing so!!!!!!!!!) They came back saying that they hold no responsibility and to get ahold of NIRVANA directly!!!! absolutely NO REINBURSEMENT OF SEEDS eventhough I was willing to accept the new order I made!!! I asked them to return my money, keep the Sand H and Thank you but NO THANKS!!!! I need results not some stupid novelty to show my friends!!! I have since sent an order to the Vancouver Island Seed Company. Once again I am faithful that one day I will find a reliable and mature seed merchant. I have now been ripped off by NIRVANA, DUTCH SEEDS BANK (be careful...them and NIRVANA discuss your orders between themselves....I have the emails to prove it...NOT COOL!!!) HIGH GRADE SEEDS (sent me 13 seeds...6 sprouts that were unable to open their cotyledon leaves and just died before 24hours...they claimed it was all my fault...OF COURSE!!!! Eventhough they have a guarantee on their site!!!) In the case of High Grade Seeds, I made an official complaint with the Canadian Better Business Bureau against them. They sent me emails that were rude and insutling and then told me to fuck off....SORRY but theese are businesses and must comform to the laws of their land!!! I hope that Vancouver comes through. Their genetics sound fantastic. Thank god I have developed some incredible seeds on my own. Of course, as we all know, it is super cool to grow new ones also!!!

Thanks Rick...letīs try and keep them honest. HELL...when I make an order, I expect at least 70% germination and then 50% male female...I donīt ask anymore!!!

Rickkus
08-27-2009, 10:04 AM
I see what you mean. The company advertises as Single Marijuana Seeds Canada, but has the web address: www.marijuana-seeds-canada.com.

Rickkus
08-27-2009, 11:35 AM
Jack Herer:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg66/phattuurbo/001-11.jpg

By my measure s/he's 18" tall from stem to stern. I count 9 internodes with 4 branches at 8" or more. S/he's a star and today is her 1 month birthday!

bullhunter
08-28-2009, 10:59 AM
WOW!!! Very nice looking plant!!! Are you thinking of maybe crossing it with any pollen (maybe just one branch to get some seeds?) Keep up the good effort!!!

Rollitup
09-01-2009, 08:55 AM
well i got cheese and g13 haze from them and they were nothing, NOTHING like Cheese or g13 haze

sativasylvia
09-01-2009, 09:12 AM
Nice looking bush make sure you dont trim her till the time is right dont you just love a nice looking bush lmao i get my seed's from seedmadness.com

Rickkus
09-04-2009, 11:25 PM
Well, the real test comes when I flick my Bic...we'll see. Given what guys have said about their seed purchase experiences (which are pretty uniformly poor or occasionally good), I want to see how this plant tastes (I once got some Jack Herer from a CC), smokes and feels. I'll also want to test it on appetite and nausea.

The Jack I tried had the tightest nugs of any pot I've ever felt. Just crazy tight. Maybe it was done outdoors in Somalia or something but it was tighter than a Republican rat's ass. With my 600W Lum in soil I expect I can replicate that with the real deal, so if this stuff is weird, I'll know something's up.

The Jack I tried was satisfactory in terms of stress, depression, that sort of thing.

The Jack I tried was excellent in terms of energy level for fatigue; nausea and appetite were good. I was losing weight at the time and Jack perked me right up.

If this one doesn't measure up, I'll ask for my money back. If they fail, I'll blast them here and send them the link. In a market like this it's places like websites that give us the democratic power to learn from each other and get our seeds elsewhere.

Peace

bullhunter
09-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Good growing man!!! The plant looks sweet but the whole thing is like you said, when the bic gets going!!!! Let us know what happens. You always have to stay positive about what you are growing. Hopefully it covers all of your requirements. I use for my blood pressure so my demands are not so HIGH!!! Of course the stronger the better !!!!Keep us informed

indica46
10-03-2009, 05:04 PM
[QUOTE=Roy]I hope you have better luck than I did with this company.

I ordered, I think it was 17 seeds in total, from this company with very poor results. I ordered several different strains one seed at a time and also a whole package of 10 "Big Bang" seeds in their original package. I thought everything was good until I tried to pop them. Now let me inform you that I have over 20 grows to my credit so I am not new to this in any way.

Results were that 1 seed is growing ("El Nemo") all the rest did not pop. I can only think that the seeds they sent were the real deal but might have been very, very, very old stock.

So with a success ratio of 1 out of 17 I don't think that I will be ordering from these folks any time soon!

I hope things work out for you better than they worked out for me.

Good luck!
I just got Big bang feminized from Hemp depot an One sprouted just one an I was lucky to get that one after 8 days of germination the others are garbage going nowhere. So I would not blame the seed company for any green house products but in the same hand I will not buy any greenhouse seeds from anyone anywhere I am sticking with kootney mountain seed co or chimera or canncopia from hemp depot always read great reports of those seed companies doing realy well.

Roy
10-04-2009, 07:04 AM
Indica46, I'm sorry to hear that your luck with "Green House Seeds" was as poor as mine. I was not thinking that "Green House" was the problem because they are one of the largest in the world, I have been told.

Have others had problems with their (Green House) seeds?

I would also like to hear of problems with "Single Marijuana Seeds Canada".



:eek: :mad:

bullhunter
10-06-2009, 11:30 AM
Since I posted earlier about my NO SPROUTS from 15 seeds that I bought from SINGLE MARIJUANA SEEDS CANADA I just wanted to post my latest exerience. Due to the fact that I had sent another order, I wrote the company and requested that they cancel my new order and to take 10$ for their time and please return my 100$. Last week I received a registered mail from them with my full 110$ in there!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! I do understand that I ordered some of their NIRVANA seeds and NIRVANA can send you some real lemons (by and by they have excellent stock). All in all, I was super impressed by their honesty. If you are having good reults from these people...more power to you.Their honesty and quick responses deserves some merited attention.

chemdawg
10-07-2009, 10:05 AM
These guys by all accounts put out a lot of trash seeds. Seeds that don't sprout, seeds that are not the strain they're supposed to be; I myself bought a few things from them but the seeds I got were not what I ordered. The prices are high and the quality is low to no and the seeds you get may not what you ordered. What a sham!Sorry but they're just not reputable. Big deal if they gave you your money back, they already got you for 15 seeds that were useless. How about as a starting point they replace or refund the money you spent for the 15 duds.

Rickkus
10-08-2009, 10:50 AM
I was super impressed by their honesty.

Me too! Writing the company was a good move. But I think it's rare that they stood behind the product. But before we kiss their ass, let's keep in mind that all they've really done is this: They acted properly. It's a funny world where we're 'super impressed' by someone simply acting properly and compensating the bare minimum (e.g., no compensation for wasted time, loss of a decent usable crop, whatever).

It's an unregulated illegal industry. To sell seeds, publicly, to work in the grey areas of the law, requires a certain mind set when it comes to rules (which follow from 'principles') - a willingness to break them that we seem to ignore. Like, would they sell to an American citizen up here for the holidays? Sure! It's illegal, but who cares as long as they're not shipping to the States, right? Hmm. Sounds like 'don't ask don't tell' which is how many other illegal transactions are managed.

I'm not saying that anyone who breaks rules is unprincipled. I'm saying that they're in the business of selling seeds first and foremost. And since it's unregulated, and an illegal industry (or on the borderline of legal and illegal - in a 'grey zone'), why would you expect an 'honest' business person? It seems to me that if they're willing to flaunt the law publicly it's only a small step to sell someone a shitty seed. Or use the name of another grower's seed. Or claim a lineage that is a figment of someone's imagination.

Also, why do people presume seed sellers care one way or another about a medical user versus any other user? I don't get it. Selling seeds is a business transaction, not a gift, or a favor done out of pity.

Yes if you order products that are in the grey areas of the law, you get shitty customer service, shitty quality, shitty guarantees, ffs.

We expect Best Buy or Canadian Tire refund policies??? I think given the nature of this business, in most cases you're gonna have to raise the volume to get them to behave like good business citizens.

Bottom Line: If you get good seeds or good quality service or guarantees, you're fortunate. The same seed name "Jack Herer" has more than one seed mill claiming the name, so they don't even care about 'trademarking' or 'copyrighting', and no way to identify such trademarking even if they wanted to do it, so you have absolutely no assurance that a seed called Jack's Ass is anything like the Jack's Ass that we all hear about anyway.

In my case I got a sativa that has the right morphology and is a strong sativa - that's really all I expected when I bought one (1) seed, and that's what I got. So far, so good. The real test comes when I smoke it. And after that point, if I like the product, I don't even care anymore if it's the 'real deal', because it's an impossible determination to make.

The best we can do collectively is to shout and scream about it publicly, here, and other places, and make their lives better if they do refund money or offer some form of warranty. Financial remuneration (or lack of it) is clearly the only thing these people will understand.

Rickkus
10-08-2009, 11:15 AM
btw I know this is hateful to some, but I've gotten 100% pop rate and a really stable morphology out of Health Canada's seeds. :D

slicker
10-08-2009, 08:02 PM
your right on the money there Rickkus about yelling loud to get some action from seed companies.

Unfortunatly its also true of some companies that sell totally legal products.:mad:

Our only recourse is to complain loudly on the forums.

bullhunter
10-09-2009, 11:04 AM
I totally agree with what you said and I am a person that does do the writting and complaining (as you can see by my replies and comments) What is important is that SINGLE SEEDS state on their website that the seeds are sold for NOVELTY PURPOSES ONLY and that they cannot talk germination with you. This is the law in Great Britain and it is an honest assestment of how they do business. I am like you...the names of all these types of cannabis crosses etc are meaningless until you try your product...you either like it or not. Just look at the website for HIGH GRADE SEEDS!!! They GUARANTEE quality and arrival. I complained about 3 shitty weak sprouts from 13 seeds, that didnīt last 24 hours and was immediately told to FUCK OFF!!! Of course I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau of Canada and they now have a mark against them (whatever that means but it sure felt good!!!). All in all I am like you. When I send my money to a company I think it is gone (lost mail, no seeds sent, anything that does happen in the mail etc.) Hell...even NIRVANA blew me off on a 6 week no answering emails and claiming my all ready picked up by them money draft still hadnīt arrived (eventhough I had ordered 9 different times from them with good results) and then they tell me to fuck off. I complained to the DUTCH AUTHORITIES and filed a complaint with them. Posting in these forums is important. It is also important to acknowledge whenever we feel that we were treated properly. WE CONTROL THE MARKET...NOT THEM!!!! Let us know how that plant comes out. Always interested in seeing what others are doing. Good luck all !!!!! Letīs keep these companies honest

Rickkus
10-09-2009, 01:24 PM
As far as I'm concerned, the best genetics are to be found in the medical community - it seems to me that's where people are gonna be way more focused on, ok, I've got THIS ailment, and THIS pot works on it.

I bet in countries where medical pot is more advanced, like Europe, they're able to nail down the specific strain to specific ailments.

We'll get there. I'm breeding the Jack Herer with Cotton Candy/Black Domina for a good sativa/indica cross that will be energetic and encourage appetite.

The Jack I'm using is male (so I can't test how it smokes but it's the most aggressive sativa I've seen) so I'm harvesting pollen now, but not the usual way.

1. I put the males in a dark place for a few days to discourage flowering.

2. I've killed the competing male, and let Jack sit for a few more days.

3. I've placed a flowered Jack cutting in the bloom room with an oscillating fan, and the hope is that in 2 or 4 days the flowers will open up under the light and release some pollen to the waiting females.

We'll see if it works.