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brainpain
11-20-2009, 11:58 AM
what it would take to set up a profeshional grow?
this would be submitted to an insurance co. that is requesting my needs.
im doing it but its such a pain, the smell, time, costs! everything is killin me! i can not even keep a steady supply. im allowed 3 adult and 4 immature plants. i am unable to do it due to so many aspects of my present problems.
if you could find it in your hearts to help this mentally crippled soul, you would definatley go down in the good book of karma!
please just serious replies.
every aspect from the walls to the exhaust
in a basement with 2 concrete walls and 8' ceilings
heat, light, energy costs, the insurance co. will need a complete list and explanation for the use.
i hope im not askin to much. i do have a litter from my insurance co. asking for the supplies needed.
thank you all whom read
peace and good will to all
bp:)
Mamahawk6
11-20-2009, 12:42 PM
I most certainly wish I could help out ....I've kinda built my grow room 1 piece at a time... C'mon Guys chime in here
Chana Masala
11-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Hi Brain P,
I will do it for you brother. It would be an honor and my pleasure. For the record I worked for two law firms in Toronto for over 7 years as a legal assistant.
I grant two personal production licenses currently on my property, but actually I am their gardener.
Can you send me the letter (PDF) or just send me a message re-typing what they are requesting. I believe even if you provide said information, they may still say that they don’t want to cover you, or that the premium will be to high so that you can’t afford it. If you wish you don't have to discloe your address or personal info to me. Do you own or rent? Is it a house or apratment or something else?
Do not worry BP. As long as the city says it is safe then there should be no issues with regard to damage, fire, mold, etc. So you may have to do so with out insurance if that is an option. If not, you could also not disclose it to underwritter. Or if disclosed, just wait it out and see what they say after providing.
I have a large grow that I haven’t disclosed to my insurance provider. I feel my space is beyond code and we are friends with our city inspector. As long as you keep an eye on everything it should be fine.
From what you are also saying is that you grow small, how many watts are your indenting to use. How many plants are you licensed to hold and how do you want to grow, hydro, soiless. I will be able to assess your energy consumption, electrical out let placement and venting/cooling issues based on your response.
Hit me back and call me if you whish. I have a 416 number. I can pm to you if you like. I think it is better to call me though and if you want I will accept the charges for the long distance.
I can help you if you wish. Shouldn’t take me long to put together provided we get on the same page.
Peace,
Chana Law
Chana Masala
11-20-2009, 01:20 PM
Are you canadian?
If so, I believe you don't even have to disclose said information. It is your right to keep your medicinal needs private. You may be able to use that card. Also, I am assuming you are a residential grower, so the scale should not be there concern. As long as city inspects they should keep quite. No diffrent then installing a new jacuzzi or putting in a gas range in your kitchen. Needs to be installed to code then inpsected.
Man, illegal growers make it difficult for the legal ones. I also hate insurance in canada, what a scam and the media always depicts us in a negitive light, giving insruance providers these ideas of danger and claim concerns.
Chana
Diskrete
11-20-2009, 01:35 PM
I believe it is for Health insurance to cover the cost, Correct me if I am wrong here BP. I know you have been in long discussions with your Health insurance regarding covering the MMJ. The wording of the letter they sent you would help a lot. and as far as equipment, it depends on the space, grow method, and how automated you want everything. you can start small, but I would aim to have them pay for the most stuff you can get them to pay for.
Chana Masala
11-20-2009, 01:47 PM
This is a first for me to hear that they will proivde fudning. Good for you BP to get them to even consider. Waiting for your reply to clearify.
If this is the case you may just want to purcashe one of those little stack able units like here: http://www.bcnorthernlights.com/?gclid=CNSLrvadmp4CFcx25QodNG2_ow
I am not affiliated with this company. But I do know they work though.
Then you can just add another box until you have achieved what you need to medicate. I.e. one for mothers and clones and one to flower out your strains.
Also easy to maintain and I think it would be cheaper for you in the long run.
artisan du bonheur
11-21-2009, 06:58 AM
:) i know this avatar :)
artisan du bonheur
11-21-2009, 07:25 AM
:) i can't sell seeds...i can't make auctions ( it's a little difficult to pay me :) )
but ......a other one can:)
:rolleyes: that's the best that i can do.....at this time..:)
Best regards
Artisan
rocket_science
11-22-2009, 06:27 PM
I am in Toronto, and can travel anywhere via public transport.
I am a cannabis consultant and have worked with some interesting people. I have grown for 15 years. For such a small grow, my services will come entirely for free. Previously I worked in Information Technology and Facilitied Managment - so lists for insurance companies are very easy for me.
Please PM Smokin Moose for a further reference.
If you are near, I can help you get your garden going, and sustainable, with you having to spend very little on equipment.
I would recommend,
1x fan and ducting $200 - $300
1x 1000w HPS light $400
6x large pots $30
2 bail Promix $70
1 general purpose chemical fertiliser $20
1 fish emulsion $15
1 Kelp Extract $15
Total $850.
If this is to much, then we can still get it down lower,
with a second hand 400w ballast and online ordered bulb ($90 all up)
and a bathroom fan modified for $50 including ducting. (Total $290)
Water by hand, take it slow and easy, and I can help. I could come by once a week to check on things, and when my licence comes through I can bring you clones ready to go.
rocket_science
11-22-2009, 06:32 PM
Dear Artisan,
I believe that it is inappropriate for you to offer to set up BrainPain as a dealer for you. He just needs a bit of help with his garden, not the headache of finding people to distribute strains to while dealing with the headache of buying from the black market.
If I have misunderstood this situation, then I apologise, it seems as if you Artisan are looking to trade and get your stuff out there, which is great, but just post grow reports and show us what you do!
Yours Sincerely,
The Rocket Scientist.
artisan du bonheur
11-22-2009, 07:14 PM
:) ok...you not understand :)
this men is my friend....he need more that a little help...
he had very big pain....and grow it's difficult with so lot of pain...
i can't give him caps or weed or other.... (for free) , i live 3000 miles distance....
the best that i cant do it's a strain to kill pain...
(i send some samples weed and bubble H but no more....dangerous for me)
i can't sell seeds ...total illégal, to difficult to pay me....i can just give:) for free:) nothing asking:)
i can't sell seeds to make money....but a other one can...
i give seeds at MED...and you make money...to help MED, to help my friend:)
:rolleyes: I promised him to kill him pain and I would make it
:) i say in french to be sure that you understand:)
Je le connais, c'est mon amis, je lui ai promis de lui calmer ses douleurs et je le ferais...je ne peu pas lui donner de l'herbe ou des caps car il est trop loin de moi, mais je peux surement trouver un strain capable de lui calmer les douleurs ou en faire un........et je peux surtout faire des strains vendables.....mais je ne peux rien vendre car trop compliqué et très dangereux pour moi...mais un autres peux le faire, un autre peux les vendres ..........Moi si je fait un strain vendable, je vous les donnes les graines, que vous les vendez afin que des gens comme mon amis , puissent se payer de la weed........
:rolleyes: ok???
Diskrete
11-23-2009, 01:47 AM
:) ok...you not understand :)
this men is my friend....he need more that a little help...
he had very big pain....and grow it's difficult with so lot of pain...
i can't give him caps or weed or other.... (for free) , i live 3000 miles distance....
the best that i cant do it's a strain to kill pain...
(i send some samples weed and bubble H but no more....dangerous for me)
i can't sell seeds ...total illégal, to difficult to pay me....i can just give:) for free:) nothing asking:)
i can't sell seeds to make money....but a other one can...
i give seeds at MED...and you make money...to help MED, to help my friend:)
:rolleyes: I promised him to kill him pain and I would make it
:) i say in french to be sure that you understand:)
Je le connais, c'est mon amis, je lui ai promis de lui calmer ses douleurs et je le ferais...je ne peu pas lui donner de l'herbe ou des caps car il est trop loin de moi, mais je peux surement trouver un strain capable de lui calmer les douleurs ou en faire un........et je peux surtout faire des strains vendables.....mais je ne peux rien vendre car trop compliqué et très dangereux pour moi...mais un autres peux le faire, un autre peux les vendres ..........Moi si je fait un strain vendable, je vous les donnes les graines, que vous les vendez afin que des gens comme mon amis , puissent se payer de la weed........
:rolleyes: ok???
Artisan, I totally understand where you are coming from. Please make future offers through PM, we don't want anyone in trouble, and we want to keep this site open for future generations. I went ahead and deleted any "rule breaking" remarks. Keep it to PM or an outside email, as much as we would like to be completly open...it's not legal and we need to take that consideration. I do understand your kindness and it is greatly appreciated here. We just need to be careful sometimes.
As for BP, I believe he probably has what he needs when it comes to the requested info. Alot of it depends on how he wants to grow and how much he feels he can take on...I know he has experience so I'll wait for some of his responses.
brainpain
11-25-2009, 10:11 AM
:) i know this avatar :)
how are you?
68
brainpain
11-25-2009, 10:16 AM
thanks so much. i do appriciate this so much
bp
Hi Brain P,
I will do it for you brother. It would be an honor and my pleasure. For the record I worked for two law firms in Toronto for over 7 years as a legal assistant.
I grant two personal production licenses currently on my property, but actually I am their gardener.
Can you send me the letter (PDF) or just send me a message re-typing what they are requesting. I believe even if you provide said information, they may still say that they don’t want to cover you, or that the premium will be to high so that you can’t afford it. If you wish you don't have to discloe your address or personal info to me. Do you own or rent? Is it a house or apratment or something else?
Do not worry BP. As long as the city says it is safe then there should be no issues with regard to damage, fire, mold, etc. So you may have to do so with out insurance if that is an option. If not, you could also not disclose it to underwritter. Or if disclosed, just wait it out and see what they say after providing.
I have a large grow that I haven’t disclosed to my insurance provider. I feel my space is beyond code and we are friends with our city inspector. As long as you keep an eye on everything it should be fine.
From what you are also saying is that you grow small, how many watts are your indenting to use. How many plants are you licensed to hold and how do you want to grow, hydro, soiless. I will be able to assess your energy consumption, electrical out let placement and venting/cooling issues based on your response.
Hit me back and call me if you whish. I have a 416 number. I can pm to you if you like. I think it is better to call me though and if you want I will accept the charges for the long distance.
I can help you if you wish. Shouldn’t take me long to put together provided we get on the same page.
Peace,
Chana Law
brainpain
11-25-2009, 10:23 AM
i need experience in ventalation heat neuts chem content water distilling and this is just the tip of the ice berg. i do have a limit of what i gan grow but i have no means what so ever. ive been growin for 8 yrs now and can grow a beautiful plant. using organics the come out beautiful. if i can leave them alont and not cut them cause i need relief from the pain!!
i do want to thank you. and good luck with the license.
timers, automated as much as possible so i can do other things in life. that is when i feel well enough!!
be well my friend
bp
I am in Toronto, and can travel anywhere via public transport.
I am a cannabis consultant and have worked with some interesting people. I have grown for 15 years. For such a small grow, my services will come entirely for free. Previously I worked in Information Technology and Facilitied Managment - so lists for insurance companies are very easy for me.
Please PM Smokin Moose for a further reference.
If you are near, I can help you get your garden going, and sustainable, with you having to spend very little on equipment.
I would recommend,
1x fan and ducting $200 - $300
1x 1000w HPS light $400
6x large pots $30
2 bail Promix $70
1 general purpose chemical fertiliser $20
1 fish emulsion $15
1 Kelp Extract $15
Total $850.
If this is to much, then we can still get it down lower,
with a second hand 400w ballast and online ordered bulb ($90 all up)
and a bathroom fan modified for $50 including ducting. (Total $290)
Water by hand, take it slow and easy, and I can help. I could come by once a week to check on things, and when my licence comes through I can bring you clones ready to go.
brainpain
11-25-2009, 10:26 AM
this is a dear friend of mine and he just wanted to help. he has ment no harm so please be nice to him. hes a good guy in a new place.
thanks
bp
Dear Artisan,
I believe that it is inappropriate for you to offer to set up BrainPain as a dealer for you. He just needs a bit of help with his garden, not the headache of finding people to distribute strains to while dealing with the headache of buying from the black market.
If I have misunderstood this situation, then I apologise, it seems as if you Artisan are looking to trade and get your stuff out there, which is great, but just post grow reports and show us what you do!
Yours Sincerely,
The Rocket Scientist.
brainpain
11-25-2009, 10:28 AM
:) ok...you not understand :)
this men is my friend....he need more that a little help...
he had very big pain....and grow it's difficult with so lot of pain...
i can't give him caps or weed or other.... (for free) , i live 3000 miles distance....
the best that i cant do it's a strain to kill pain...
(i send some samples weed and bubble H but no more....dangerous for me)
i can't sell seeds ...total illégal, to difficult to pay me....i can just give:) for free:) nothing asking:)
i can't sell seeds to make money....but a other one can...
i give seeds at MED...and you make money...to help MED, to help my friend:)
:rolleyes: I promised him to kill him pain and I would make it
:) i say in french to be sure that you understand:)
Je le connais, c'est mon amis, je lui ai promis de lui calmer ses douleurs et je le ferais...je ne peu pas lui donner de l'herbe ou des caps car il est trop loin de moi, mais je peux surement trouver un strain capable de lui calmer les douleurs ou en faire un........et je peux surtout faire des strains vendables.....mais je ne peux rien vendre car trop compliqué et très dangereux pour moi...mais un autres peux le faire, un autre peux les vendres ..........Moi si je fait un strain vendable, je vous les donnes les graines, que vous les vendez afin que des gens comme mon amis , puissent se payer de la weed........
:rolleyes: ok???
you cant believe what he does for others!! i would give him an arm if it would help him!!
bp/68
brainpain
11-25-2009, 10:31 AM
what do you mean?
As for BP, I believe he probably has what he needs when it comes to the requested info. Alot of it depends on how he wants to grow and how much he feels he can take on...I know he has experience so I'll wait for some of his responses.
__________________im not following!
rocket_science
11-25-2009, 12:18 PM
Hi BP,
I re-read the thread and noticed you need more than I listed - I was just making a start - Chana's grows look great! So I'm sure he can help you out - what a wonderful new addition to TY Chana will make.
And Artisan, so sorry my friend, it was clear that you were trying to help and BP obviously thinks very highly of you!
If you do ever need any help BP, I'm always willing - my list was just a start, but if we talk through your requirements I can certainly put together all the info you need. I'm new in town and have too much time on my hands at the moment!
Cheers,
RS
Chana Masala
11-25-2009, 01:47 PM
Rocket I think you need to come by my garden some time...
Peace bro...
Diskrete
11-25-2009, 02:08 PM
I was just stating it looked like you got some good responses to your question and depending on a few questions that people had you would let us know how you wanted to go about things with regards to method, space and how much you feel you can take on. I know you have experience growing, so I didn't want to assume anything...We all have what works best for us. This was for Health insurance right? correct me if I am wrong.
artisan du bonheur
12-10-2009, 12:56 AM
:) yep!
i would like know if someone help my friend brainpain :)
(:rolleyes: i would like make me parachute with my motorbike to help her but the plane ticket is a little expensive:eek:......:rolleyes: full weed in the front parachute for sure:D )
Best regards
Artisan
Hi Brain P,
I will do it for you brother. It would be an honor and my pleasure. For the record I worked for two law firms in Toronto for over 7 years as a legal assistant.
I grant two personal production licenses currently on my property, but actually I am their gardener.
Can you send me the letter (PDF) or just send me a message re-typing what they are requesting. I believe even if you provide said information, they may still say that they don’t want to cover you, or that the premium will be to high so that you can’t afford it. If you wish you don't have to discloe your address or personal info to me. Do you own or rent? Is it a house or apratment or something else?
Do not worry BP. As long as the city says it is safe then there should be no issues with regard to damage, fire, mold, etc. So you may have to do so with out insurance if that is an option. If not, you could also not disclose it to underwritter. Or if disclosed, just wait it out and see what they say after providing.
I have a large grow that I haven’t disclosed to my insurance provider. I feel my space is beyond code and we are friends with our city inspector. As long as you keep an eye on everything it should be fine.
From what you are also saying is that you grow small, how many watts are your indenting to use. How many plants are you licensed to hold and how do you want to grow, hydro, soiless. I will be able to assess your energy consumption, electrical out let placement and venting/cooling issues based on your response.
Hit me back and call me if you whish. I have a 416 number. I can pm to you if you like. I think it is better to call me though and if you want I will accept the charges for the long distance.
I can help you if you wish. Shouldn’t take me long to put together provided we get on the same page.
Peace,
Chana LawThis is very nice :)
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