View Full Version : Tasty effective BHO sublingual.
Graywolf
12-19-2009, 07:50 AM
Hey ya'll, do try this at home!
I mixed 27 grams carboxylized BHO with 1.7 grams each cinnamon leaf oil, cinnamon bark oil, and myrrh gum, as if I were making Holy Anointing oil, but then added 3 grams of LorAnne cinnamon candy flavoring oil, instead of adding olive or coconut oil as the menstruum oil.
Tastes good and comes on quickly when one to three drops are used sub lingually! The test panel thus far uniformily found relief and have described it as the best yet!
Bon appetite and smiley experimenting!
GW
Radic
12-19-2009, 07:19 PM
irey
that soundz kewl
love to see some pix
i have a few Qz
are the spices strictly for flavour????????
could you please explain carboxylized butain hash oil BHO
what is this process??????? carboxylized <---what does this mean
instead of adding olive or coconut oil as the menstruum oil.what is the menstruum oil.??????????
do you means as a base or carrier oil???????
and is that the same amount added --->3 grams olive oil or coco nut oil??????
what aliments have you successfully treated?????????
thanx for sharing
irey guidance
Shadimar
12-19-2009, 08:03 PM
That HOA is great stuff, eh?
I don't think I've found anything it can't treat yet and more people have the recipe than even realize ;)
Truly myrrhaculous :p results compared to pharmaceutikills (my new spelling) and particularly powerful against skin ailments: sunburn, infection, rash, cuts etc.
I'll have to try the candy oil :)
niall
12-19-2009, 08:03 PM
Think he means decarboxylated - if you're not going to be heating BHO when consuming then you should decarboxylate the herb before the extraction to convert acids to actives.
See the VICS cannamist recipe, but in a nutshell heat your herb to 160C for 5 mins or until the first smoke appears, then continue as normal.
Radic
12-19-2009, 09:34 PM
Think he means decarboxylated
i hear yah bro
thanx niall
yes datz what i thort too
i just seeking cleafication from Graywolf to make sure we are on the same page
That HOA is great stuff, eh?
Shadimar is that a typo
do you mean BHO???????? butain hash oil
or what is HOA???????
guidance
Shadimar
12-19-2009, 10:03 PM
what is HOA?
HOA is Holy Annointing Oil.
You can find the recipe in Exodus although Kaneh-Bosem was mis-translated as Calamus. The suffix em denotes plural so Kaneh-Bos is one and Kaneh-Bosem is the two (male and female) fragrant canes.
Basically Cinnamon, Myrrh & Cannabis in a carrier oil such as olive just like the BHO recipe in the first post, the only difference is that I use whole bud so it would take longer but could contain a more diverse extract. I blend it all under low heat with a little water to make sure the temp doesn't rise too much, then filter out the solids and freeze the liquid for a short time to separate the small amount of remaining water.
I've given it to people for sunburns, cold sores, cuts, infections, etc and the typical response is amazement at the progress made after only one day. All of the components have a long history of medical use but together they really shine.
Oddly enough I don't think it ever occurred to me to try any internally, even with the food aspects of cinnamon and olive oil. Candy sounds like a good idea.
Radic
12-19-2009, 10:40 PM
thanx and praize Shadimar
HAO is irey
i gotta love dat
yes we eat hash oil for inturnal cannabis threapy treatments
cannabis certainly is a plant of great renown
36,000 different uses
:D
i can seen the light of how glookoma suffers would be cured with HAO
along with many other diseases
eh
maybe jeuses was like rick simpson lookin for a ailment that cannabis cant cure
irey guidance
Graywolf
12-20-2009, 08:28 AM
irey
that soundz kewl
love to see some pix
i have a few Qz
are the spices strictly for flavour????????
could you please explain carboxylized butain hash oil BHO
what is this process??????? carboxylized <---what does this mean
what is the menstruum oil.??????????
do you means as a base or carrier oil???????
and is that the same amount added --->3 grams olive oil or coco nut oil??????
what aliments have you successfully treated?????????
thanx for sharing
irey guidance
Thanks for your interest Radic! Good questions all.
The only spices that were added for flavor was the candy oil. The other ingredients actually noticeably increase the speed of uptake.
The best explanation of carboxylized is that my fingers were moving faster than my brain. Please change the word carboxylized to decarboxylated, which has already been noted, is heating the material hot enough for long enough to convert the cannabinoid acids to their orally active form by getting rid of the carboxyl loop.
Menstruum oil is the carrier oil.
Actually the amount of coconut oil in the oral HAO that I make is 30% of the cannabis oil. For the 27 gram batch above, that would have been 8.1 grams. I add 80% coconut oil for the topical, because the TLV for cinnamon skin contact is 1%.
With the above, just pain, because I just came up with it two days ago and have had only two official tests.
I did unveil it to about 25 OMMP patients Christmas party last night, and it was enthusiastically uniformly approved and for sure it added joy.
There were reports of symptom relief but the information is anecdotal because the patients were concurrently sampling other meds, so a statement that the patient was feeling no pain might be misleading and later twisted against the study.
As far as what ailments I have successfully treated. Discounting my self medication for what ailed me at the time between the late sixties and obtaining my OMMP card following retirement, I now officially treat my self for pain associated with paybacks for the debauchery of my errant youth, as well as degenerative joints.
Upon obtaining my OMMP card to open legal avenues to raw materials, I have manufactured meds by traditional means and developed new ones since June of 2008.
To test the meds over the widest population possible, I have used test panels from three different volunteer OMMP patient groups and donated 100% of my production, less personal use, to either tests or patients without meds.
As part of a larger group, I have also done pro bono extraction of donated materials for a compassionate support group, that donated it to needy patients, and I haven’t a clue what all of the symptoms were that it was used for.
I current supply Cannacaps to a former Heroine addict for pain control, to get her off of the Vicodin that her doctor prescribed for her pain and which was not only stringing her out but was rapidly becoming ineffectual as her tolerance built.
I supply oil to a Stage 7 Alzheimer’s patient, simply in support of her caregiver, who has achieved miraculous results using a regiment of her version of HAO and other medications. The results are anecdotal because there were a significant number of concurrent salubrious improvements in her diet and surroundings, when her daughter caregiver took custody of her.
I also supplied meds specifically to cancer patients to follow up on Rick Simpson’s work in Canada.
Define success? Without a better system of collecting and measuring information, the results are all anecdotal.
I have numerous patients reporting pain relief from a variety of causes. I have a patient that claims first time ever relief of her Spina Bifida pain and another that claims first time ever relief of his phantom limb.
I have a plethora of patients reporting being able to eat and sleep.
I have patients reporting PTSD relief.
In the cancer program, three patients, including myself, experienced a return to normal PSA levels after taking Cannacaps to address a sudden spike in PSA. The results are anecdotal because getting lucky the night before the test can spike PSA and no cancer was actually ever identified for certain.
I have one skin cancer patient reporting 100% success within 60 days using a topical that I supplied. The cancer was a reoccurrence and the previous time they used radiation and chemo, which had such severe side effects that he said he would die before doing it again.
Patient is now out of touch and I am trying to establish contact and find out if his has stayed in remission.
The information is anecdotal, because he and his wife recognized the lumps rising on his back as a reoccurrence of the previous tumors and didn’t bother with an official diagnosis.
I have one patient that went in to have his colon sectioned to remove the cancerous portion, but when they got in there, they only found serious diverticulitis. The information is anecdotal, because the X-ray Technician and the two cancer specialists reviewing the film could have misdiagnosed it. Film is only an indicator, not positive proof,
I just lost one patient to death who discussed the meds that I provided with his doctor after he and I had agreed on a regiment and they decided that he should only take it to palliate symptoms from the chemo and radiation. The information is anecdotal because of the inevitability of death and lack of definable regiment.
I also lost one patient to death that was probably my greatest sense of accomplishment.
She had lung cancer that her doctors had given up treatment on and besides having moved into a hospice, she had arranged to be euthanized the following week, in keeping with her right to do so under Oregon’s Death With Dignity Act.
I gave an oz of cancer meds to her friend and OMMP caregiver, who was visiting her and received back the following report:
Patient X was morose and withdrawn upon caregiver’s arrival, but after administrating two drops, she became highly animated and talkative about her life’s experiences. Her mood dramatically improved and after much laughter and gaiety that had them both in tears, she dropped off for four hours of continuous sleep. Her first long sleep in weeks.
Upon awakening, the first words out of her mouth was an excited, “That was phenomenal!” She immediately contacted her doctor and withdrew her euthanasia directive and was positive and up beat again.
She continued to improve for about two weeks until she no longer needed nursing assistance, at which point she moved in with one of her sons.
Sadly at that point, she suddenly died of a massive heart attack.
Not only did we lose her, but the test data becomes anecdotal. I only consider it one of my greatest successes because when she died I cried not only for her, but at the realization at how much better her life became with the medication.
She died full of joy surrounded by family instead of in a lonely hospice room by herself and did so after medical science had given up on her.
Define success?
GW
Radic
12-20-2009, 10:02 PM
thanx and praize Graywolf
nuff raspect
i gotta love every utterance
seen
i am very interested
i have been troding that parth for some time also
we have just opened up a free medicinal cannabis dispencery in nimbin
for all suffers who have a doctors recomendation for cannabis thearpy
we supply cannabis tincture and cannabis healing oil (which is an infusion extract) cannabis ointment and creams
we are looking at other form of administration
i love the corn flower idea
that would make for eze handling
maybe someother 'glutan free' flowers for those with allergies
hafe go soooooooooo
The other ingredients actually noticeably increase the speed of uptake.
gotta love dat
to make the tinctrue i use a 12th centuary alcamist formula
same as HAO
it has other herbal essences in it which aid the extraction and then completely leave as well so you end up with a pure extract
coconut oil in the oral HAO that I make is 30% of the cannabis oil.
kewl
thanx
gotta go sooooooooo
I add 80% coconut oil for the topical,
seen
i will try dat too
i have used coconut oil to make cannabis ointment for a skin cancer suffer
at about both those levels and won sofar
this was pon his upper leg and down to the bone
after 2 days he started walking again
after 10 days it was almost completely healed
its been a couple of mts now
i just saw him running in the street "canna stop now Radic gotta catch a lift to town"
:D
do you find ????
sometimes less is more
i have made some extreamly week ointments
from poor quality leaf
and still got positive results for minor cuts, bruses, burns, rashes and skin irrations
specially for people with light bodyweights
children and babies
forward cannabis
heal the people
heal the land
irey guidance
Graywolf
12-22-2009, 06:18 AM
thanx and praize Graywolf
nuff raspect
i gotta love every utterance
seen
i am very interested
i have been troding that parth for some time also
we have just opened up a free medicinal cannabis dispencery in nimbin
for all suffers who have a doctors recomendation for cannabis thearpy
we supply cannabis tincture and cannabis healing oil (which is an infusion extract) cannabis ointment and creams
we are looking at other form of administration
i love the corn flower idea
that would make for eze handling
maybe someother 'glutan free' flowers for those with allergies
hafe go soooooooooo
gotta love dat
to make the tinctrue i use a 12th centuary alcamist formula
same as HAO
it has other herbal essences in it which aid the extraction and then completely leave as well so you end up with a pure extract
kewl
thanx
gotta go sooooooooo
seen
i will try dat too
i have used coconut oil to make cannabis ointment for a skin cancer suffer
at about both those levels and won sofar
this was pon his upper leg and down to the bone
after 2 days he started walking again
after 10 days it was almost completely healed
its been a couple of mts now
i just saw him running in the street "canna stop now Radic gotta catch a lift to town"
:D
do you find ????
sometimes less is more
i have made some extreamly week ointments
from poor quality leaf
and still got positive results for minor cuts, bruses, burns, rashes and skin irrations
specially for people with light bodyweights
children and babies
forward cannabis
heal the people
heal the land
irey guidance
12 century Alchemist formula! I’m loving that and am all ears if you would care to share! Us’n local crippled, wizened, and aging stove top alchemists are still floundering with improving the effectiveness of the Exodus formula.
We have just started on what can be added to improve it without antagonizing the effect or being insalubrious in combination.
As to my selection of oils, I actually originally avoided coconut oil because of its solidification temperature and caveats, but embraced in the face of new incoming scientific findings that flew in the face of my concerns.
Good job on the bad to the bone cancer bro!! I personally believe that we are on to something with regard to cancer and that the world population will be seriously embarrassed when the realize how much money they have paid LEO to suppress it, and keep the positive portion of the information in the “Professional” sector.
As far as less being better, I easily relate to trying to figure out exactly how much is enough? Besides the tolerance variability between individuals, there is the issue of expectations and strain differences, which have complicated my determining a universally effective dosage.
More to your point, It does seem that enough is enough and too much has little effect unless it is waaaay tooooo much, and then I’ve seen it get ugly.
GW
pflover
01-04-2010, 09:16 PM
This looks like a GREAT recipe for those suffering form trigeminal neuralgia or other forms of facial neural pain.
Graywolf
12-10-2011, 09:01 AM
Please bump this post.
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