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Grasshopper
09-16-2005, 04:48 AM
(1) cannabis can "increase the risk" of respiratory disorders, including lung cancer,

This is carefully worded - the reason for that is because the proof that cannabis smoke actually causes cancer and other breathing problems is very patchy (see our research section). However, it's something to bear in mind and there are several things you can do to reduce any risk there might be. Using a bong or a water pipe in fact removes a large amount of the tars from the smoke and is to be encouraged.


(2) Red eye and increased heart beat

These are certainly signs of (heavy) indulgence, but is it a risk?

Cannabis widens blood vessels (vasodilation). The eyes contain blood vessels so blood vessels in the eyes widen and hence the blood within the vessels is more visible against the white of the eye.

When the vasodilator is metabolized, the blood vessels return to normal and the redeye disappears, it's very similar to blushing, except the link between embarrassment and facial vasodilation is not very well understood.

Cannabis induced redeye is not the same as the redeye caused by inflammation, allergy or injury

The increase in the heart rate is linked to this widening of the blood vessels, The heart beats faster because the pressure is lowered. It's an effort to restore the pressure to normal, part of what's meant by homeostasis. Everything in the body is linked and balanced.

In other words, although D-2k is correct to warn of the effect of redeye, it isn't a serious condition and so shouldn't be listed as a risk.


(3) Paranoia and feeling anxious

Yes, this can happen, especially in inexperienced users or when very stoned. It will pass when the effect wears off. Some people find the effects of cannabis unpleasant at any dose and it may make existing mental problems worse, particularly if they've been caused by using other drugs.


(4) Short term memory and concentration

When stoned, its maybe difficult to concentrate on certain things and this will make it difficult to study for example. These effects go away when the effect wears off.

Some people find being stoned an aid to creativity, particularly in the arts and with music but this is not always the case.

The majority of users experience no ill-effects, sleep well and wake calm and clear headed after the acute effects have passed. Despite the warning above that it may be more difficult to perform important tasks that require a clear head or sharp reactions the next day, there is no cannabis equivalent of a hangover.


(5) Risk of accidents

It's good advice not to operate machinery or to drive whilst stoned, although the evidence suggests that the effect on driving isn't as bad as the government would have us believe (see the research library - click here)


(6) Smoking cannabis with tobacco

Note the way they warn of the dangers of smoking cannabis mixed with tobacco, rather than doing the logical thing and advising users to smoke cannabis in its pure state. The problem of course, is because tobacco is legal and cannabis is not and they can't bring themselves to advise people not to use a legal substance when using an illegal one

We can, and we'll do it now. If you're smoking cannabis mixed with tobacco you run the risk of getting addicted to tobacco and of suffering the ill effects of that drug, which definitely do include lung cancer.

This is the most effective bit of harm reduction advice the government could and should give, but is prevented from doing so by it support for the drug war against cannabis


(7) Mixing Cannabis with alcohol

This is a good way to make yourself sick. It's good advice not to mix alcohol with any other drug - but this is a warning about booze, not cannabis really.


(8) Dangers from plastics and aluminum

As long as the cannabis is burned in a proper pipe, there is no problem using plastic buckets and rubber tubes, as long as they don't get hot. The advice not use aluminum drink cans means as improvised pipes. This is because the aluminium vapourises and is dangerous to breath in. It's not a good idea to cook with aluminum pans either for the same reason.


(9) Risk of infections

Infections like hepatitis can, of course, be passed on by many routes, sharing joints is a possible way it could happen, maybe ....

Hepatitis A is passed by the Faecal/oral route, and hepatitis C requires inoculation with infected body fluids, but it usually needs a bit more than a soggy roach.

Is D-2K is really claiming that contracting serious illnesses like hepatitis is a real risk if you use cannabis? It seems an alarmist point to make in all honesty, deserving of a "reefer madness" award.


(10) Smoking around other people

Be considerate - some people don't like the smell of smoke and its not fair to make others breath your smoke



References relating to cannabis causing vasodilatation

Acta Psychiatr Scand 1992 Aug;V 86(2):173-8
"Middle cerebral artery velocity during upright posture after marijuana smoking". Matthew R J, Wilson W H, Humphreys D, Lowe JV, Wiethe K E

J Anal Toxicol 1988 Jul-Aug;12(4):169-75
"Marijuana-laced brownies: behavioral effects, physiologic effects, and urinalysis in humans following ingestion". Cone E J, Johnson RE, Paul BD, Mell LD, Mitchell J

J Chronic Dis 1987;40(2):131-6
"Behavioral factors and blood pressure in black college students". Adams LL, Washburn RA, Haile GT, Kuller LH

Ophthalmology 1980 Mar;87(3):222-8
"Effect of marihuana on intraocular and blood pressure in glaucoma" Merritt JC, Crawford WJ, Alexander PC, Anduze AL, Gelbart SS


Grasshopper

pflover
09-16-2005, 05:03 AM
"(4) Short term memory and concentration

When stoned, its maybe difficult to concentrate on certain things and this will make it difficult to study for example."

this is somewhat strain dependent. i have to say i graduated from a very difficult private liberal arts college (Reed) and was VERY medicated with cannabis the entire time except for 3 months my seniour year when i was tested or ADD and dyslexia again. during these 3 months my performance and grades dropped. this was earily in the year. when i was able to smoke i did. i ran a psych experiment and wrote a 100 pg 4 chapter book during this year, attended regular classes and got an accedemic comidation for this year.

i atribute my success at reed to treating ADD with cannabis. i am not alone in how i survived reed.

pflover
09-16-2005, 05:05 AM
otherwise i agree with that evaluation for the most part.

S_a_H
09-16-2005, 09:54 AM
11) Urge to grow your own so you don't get screwed by a dealer

Onemynde
09-16-2005, 10:02 AM
(4) Short term memory and concentration
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The majority of users experience no ill-effects, sleep well and wake calm and clear headed after the acute effects have passed. Despite the warning above that it may be more difficult to perform important tasks that require a clear head or sharp reactions the next day, there is no cannabis equivalent of a hangover.

Now with this, I personally have experienced what I term a "stoneover", which is probably just residual effects after having smoked heavily before going to sleep. Something like waking up stoned I guess. I have also noted that my short-term memory for things learned, even while sober, like names, places or certain words, is affected when I smoke versus when I am not smoking. (I go through phases where I will smoke for months/years then dry out for months/years, then repeat)

Now recently, I haven't been smoking (due to no meds really), but I still have CRS. Must be getting old. :mad:

Just my $.02

Peace

buddyh
09-16-2005, 10:22 AM
What was the question?
:confused:

coco_artist
09-16-2005, 10:25 AM
11) Urge to grow your own so you don't get screwed by a dealer

Thanks S_a_H

here's number twelve:

12) You can get refused pain relief when you have Cancer if your family Physician is against your use of Marijuana.

Tafari
09-16-2005, 12:30 PM
The Police.

Tafari

Green Medicine
09-16-2005, 04:56 PM
According to my "D.A.R.E. Educators Guide to 4th thru 7th Grades" 1991 Edition

Death. Yes, Death is a possible result of smoking Marijuana? WTF is that about?

Of course I love the section about telling "A Teacher, Principal, Police Officer or Clergy" if you find YOUR PARENTS using drugs!

Sure kids trade that loving home for foster care.......everyone loves NEW temporary parents!

Sick, Sick, Sick!

coco_artist
09-16-2005, 05:08 PM
It's weird I log in and read this because I just got off the phone with my daughter and we were just talking about kids being brought into foster care and I was telling her how I think that it harms kids to separate them from their parents unless there is extreme abuse. This is just my personal opinion, but it is based on twelve years as a foster parent.

coco_artist
09-16-2005, 06:37 PM
Other dangers of Cannabis:

You can wet your pants laughing.

Can destroy computers when you spit all over your keyboard from laughing too hard.

Can make a disabled person...gasp...horny..causing all kinds of vile filthly thoughts :D

purplemyst
09-16-2005, 09:52 PM
Cannibis can cause typos.

coco_artist
09-16-2005, 09:57 PM
uncontrollable laughter
interesting discourse
compassion and a willingness toward tolerance
an open mind
relief from vomiting and pain

yes, it is the devil's weed.......as if......

coco_artist
09-16-2005, 09:58 PM
'FILTHY THOUGHTS' not fithly LOL puff puff

BigDaddyc9
09-17-2005, 06:29 AM
14. can lead to the injestion of thousands of calories. 15 may lead to sex bigd

coco_artist
09-17-2005, 07:55 AM
15 may lead to sex bigd
_______________
please amend:
does lead to sex if there is a partner of choice around

Malken
09-17-2005, 12:52 PM
Now with this, I personally have experienced what I term a "stoneover", which is probably just residual effects after having smoked heavily before going to sleep. Something like waking up stoned I guess. I have also noted that my short-term memory for things learned, even while sober, like names, places or certain words, is affected when I smoke versus when I am not smoking. (I go through phases where I will smoke for months/years then dry out for months/years, then repeat)

Now recently, I haven't been smoking (due to no meds really), but I still have CRS. Must be getting old. :mad:

Just my $.02

Peace


the 'stoneover' might be dehydration. The first time I got high I felt like that the next day. I called my hospital because I was worried and in no condition to drive. the nurse said it may be dehydration. Now I make a careful point of drinking alot of water while smoking.

On a related matter. the night I got my perscription, after smoking, as I was drifying towards sleep I got what seemed at the time like a great Idea for a fantasy book. I was too lazy to get off my ass and write it down so I'll never know If it was a good idea or not.

16. loss of pot generated creativity spurts