View Full Version : I'm having a thought
05-19-2005, 12:21 PM
and I would like some help with it. I hope someday as some of you already know to be part of starting a commmunity for sick folk. This would be a community where everyone does their part for each other and nobody is out to make a profit for themselves. The main goal of this community would be to support itself to the extent that it could run a hospice for people to die in peace and love if they do not have that in their lives. With all that would be required to accomplish this I want to make sure that certain roadblocks do not arise later. Primarily i wressle with the idea of strife. I KNOW that in this community strife will rear it's head and I want to see to it that there is a way to handle it so that it does not rip the community apart. So I ask you my friends this question, What sort of government or laws or even morals could hold this type of community together?
One thing more please. I welcome all thoughts in this thread positive AND negative I do not however except those which try to silence. :cool:
05-19-2005, 12:35 PM
A community like you describe would be a wonderful thing. Like many from the "Woodstock Nation" I lived in a few different "communitys". Two of them were centered in religion (one Christian and one-Buddhist) and another was political in nature.
A community like you describe would need a code of ethics. A set of principles(such as the right of all beings to die in peace and dignity) would be neccessary if we all were going to be on the same tract. It sounds like nirvana. I for one, often fear where and how I'm going to end my days. I don't want it to be in some unfeeling institution where the meds I would need to die in dignity would be in short supply. What you are dreaming of could be a reality if enough of us could get committed to such an undertaking.
05-19-2005, 12:47 PM
Being sick alone and isolated from others, or dying alone is no fun. There is a need for these kinds of communities. Unfortunately, the mortality rate in population might be a problem in sustaining such a community? Just a thought and I could be way off base.
05-19-2005, 01:32 PM
We would be willing to work with you on this. We are already working on forming a non-profit that will be working to help sick people work from home. Many of us on fixed incomes can't work normal jobs, but we can't live comfortably with the little we get. We would be happy to help you get setup. You will of course need a web site to do this, forums, etc. We would be more then happy to help with such a great cause.
05-19-2005, 01:35 PM
there have been plenty of utopian style communities experimented with over the years in north america. don't know of any that have held the test of time.
heres an interesting link.
05-20-2005, 02:53 AM
CoCo hun, You are absulutly right thats why part of the plan is that the community itself is a bit large with support systems like grain production and a bakery etc. etc.
The whole point is to have a system which is large enough and diverse enough that the population itself would take care of the hospice. The hospice would be the final expression of the community. There would be enough profit from such a system that there would be enough money for everyone's "modest" desires to be satisfied with the occasional extravagant one thrown in for good measure. The real problems are in strife. I'm thinking a covenant between all involved. Also I would think an elected council with limits on service. Perhaps some sort of mass veto right? the real problem is that such a system would have to develop some sort of loyalty towards each other or else it would have to be inforced.
PS. of course CoCo as a surviving member of the take this life and shove it club, you would be our most welcome and cherished resident.
05-20-2005, 04:17 AM
Here I am up sick in the night and I sign on and read this Boomer
'Take this Life and Shove it Club' And I just medicated too Boomer...good timing....
05-20-2005, 08:17 AM
Let me know when you find this place boomer..Everyone deserves to die with dignity...micah
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05-20-2005, 09:40 AM
Boomer you are such a kind a caring person may the best of health be upon you..!! :)
05-20-2005, 11:39 AM
Thanks CoCo :) glad it worked lol. One of the major things I think is that this society would have laws that are NOT based on morality. I don't think it works to pass moral law. Laws should be based on community need. I figure no law should be passed unless it is needed to keep the peace. Also I really like the council idea but how do you keep folks from using it as a power base? I think this is a wonderful idea also but how do you keep it from either becoming stagnant or being torn apart? Frankly it's this one idea which has kept the whole thing from starting. I'm not gonna try to bring this about unless I can solve it. what about spiritual services? With so many diff. folks from everywhere, there will be diff. belief systems to contend with. I guess we should have some kind of shared building for that? I don't know a lot about too many belief systems but I THINK that would work.
05-20-2005, 01:02 PM
DO NOT look to "Roschdale College" <sp? for inspiration... although it could be looked to as a "good example of a BAD example".
Gord........has been thinking about these very thoughts for quite some time now... this aspect of living off the grid in a community of "like minded" individuals has been and continues to be of GREAT interest to me!
05-20-2005, 02:26 PM
We need, GASP, a Trailer Park. We could call it TYvale. LOL! :D
05-20-2005, 04:30 PM
Ever since the show "Cops" came on TV, I've wanted to live in a trailer park!
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