View Full Version : Whorled Phyllotaxy
01-02-2006, 02:26 PM
I have a seedling with 3 leaves/branches per node, which at first I thought was a triploid (polyploid). Posted for info at another site, and learned it's whorled phyllotaxy, most plants exhibiting this are males. Is there anything i can do besides hope it is a female? What I mean, is the sex of the plant pre-determined solely by genetics, or by genetics and the environment?
I had that once on a NL#5 and I prayed for weeks for it to be a female. It was a male, but what a beautiful looking plant! From what I read, it's likely to be a male and there's not much can be done to help it. I did everything I could think of for my plant, to no avail, I even took cuttings and tried a couple more times to change it. I finally got pissed off and threw it away.
I think in this case it's purely genetic and can't be altered.
01-02-2006, 02:56 PM
his is the same type of plant that ages ago I had and what I did was to keep clipping off the male flowers and after about two weeks or so it turned female and stayed that way.
Get out those small clippers and hope!!!!
In The Wind
01-02-2006, 03:24 PM
What I mean, is the sex of the plant pre-determined solely by genetics, or by genetics and the environment?
The latter, with a heavy weight given towards genetic disposition.
01-02-2006, 03:44 PM
Last one for tonight, I'm dead.
Remember, in what we do indoors, we play Gods.
We inedvertinly (SP?) cause males due to stress and things.
We can also cause females, it just depends on what you do.
Act like God and make what you want.
I just think I gave myself some very good advice.
Thanks Hashi!!!!!! :)
01-02-2006, 03:47 PM
i have never had a male plant that showed that trait but i have only had one that showed it from birth. the 4 or 5 others developed it later, one after revegging but just on one branch.
01-02-2006, 03:53 PM
I've had a few show from birth and 2 show while in veg. both male and female. I've seen a few threads around showing ways to help the female ratio by lighting schedule, temps, color spectrum, use of p and a couple more. These plants from what I have read are mutants and undesired stock but I see no reason not to smoke it.
01-02-2006, 04:16 PM
mutants are not inherently bad on their own. for one this particular mutation has more budsites per stem area.... this could be a yield advantage potentially.
01-02-2006, 04:25 PM
very true pf, there are some great strains out there because of mutants. The ones that I flowered out had a smaller bud on one of the branches and just couldn't keep up to the other 2. The buds were smaller but it was still a bud. Question though did having that 3rd branch prohibit the other 2 branches from growing to full potential?
01-02-2006, 04:29 PM
good question, my experience says that it depends on the light source used, light despersion and genetix. aproximately half i've grown have express the lateral inhibition of growth that you describe.
01-02-2006, 07:30 PM
I have a BlueBerry that ALWAYS has whorled phyllotaxy from seed!
It's a common trait in this strain. They outgrow this odd formation and grow
"normal" after the 5th node.....
Mine have more "twist" to the leaves like a desk fans' curved blades.
01-02-2006, 10:17 PM
I have twice had triploid plants, both were males:( but they look very nice.
01-02-2006, 10:27 PM
They were always refered to as "Polyploid" back in the day,,"Whorled" was a term to make fun of those bumperstickers,,remember "Imagine World Peace" bumperstickers? We used to see "Imagine Whorled Peas" on the back of Luxury Cars,,that was Repuglicans making fun of Tree Huggers.
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