Health Canada screwing me around.

[Marco Renda]

Well I just got off the phone with Mary Ann and she informed me that my renewal was sent out on Friday. She also informed me that my renewal is for 16 gr per day and not the increased amount that my dr had signed for. I was told that my dr was called by someone in their office to tell him that my amount is too high and so the dr backed down and sent a note stating to keep it at 16 gr per day. Who in the hell do Health Canada think they are? I will be seeing my dr this Thursday to go over this with him and to get him to give me a letter stating that I in fact need my increase. I have been at 16gr per day for the past 4 years and my medical conditions have worsened since my first exemption. If I had to stay at 16gr per day I will have to start taking pain killers that do more harm than good.

What do you folks suggest I do about Health Canada's interferience?

Take Care and Peace
Marco Renda
Federal Exemptee
Publisher & Editor
Treating Yourself
The Alternative Medicine Journal

[zigzag1a]

theres been quite a bit of this happening lately with hellth canada interfering with patient-doctor priviledges.
hellth canada has no bussiness phoning your doctor and making any kind of suggestions to him. they are not doctors merely beaureaucrats and don't have the information or education required to tell you or your doctor how much your daily intake should be.
i hope your not going to stand for this.

[Marco Renda]

i hope your not going to stand for this.

HELL NO! I already called my MP office and I will be discussing this issue with my dr on Thursday. If my dr refuses then I will look for a dr that has experience with mmj as my current dr isn't familiar and I am his first patient that he signed for

Take Care and Peace
Marco

[zigzag1a]

there has been a report that the new cards being issued have some kind of tracking device inserted into the corner of the card. it is a round bump apparently, that looks like a small button inside the card.
dunno at this point what it actually is.

[jb247]

God, this is sickening. When beaurocrats start to control how medicine is dispensed, or start telling doctors how to do their jobs, it simply sucks...I guess the only thing you folks up north can do is inundate your local MP's and such with complaints over the actions of these @$$es/

Peace...j.b.

[BUSH HATER!]

there has been a report that the new cards being issued have some kind of tracking device inserted into the corner of the card. it is a round bump apparently, that looks like a small button inside the card.
dunno at this point what it actually is.

Sounds to me like an RFID chip. Soon these things will be in everything you buy too. Pretty scary stuff.

Here's some more info on what RFID technology is, and why lots of people are worried about it...

http://www.eff.org/Privacy/RFID/

I wonder if you can just hit it with a metal punch and a hammer .

[zigzag1a]

i've been thinking that if my card comes equipped like this that some kind of accident like that may just happen to mine.

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I wonder if you can just hit it with a metal punch and a hammer .

[Marco Renda]

I just got my card today and there is no bump in mine. Guess they already know all they want to know about me LOL

Marco

[bobbyD]

marco!!!

i am going to increase my daily usage amt,, in my MMAR,,, redo the form with my Neurologist,,,

if i am also subjected to this bullshit!!!! i think we should lodge a class action suit,,, with as many of us as we can,, go PUBLIC,, inform Canadians of ALL the bullshit issues with the MMAR

-renters insurance?
-doctor recommended increases
-installation Electrical codes
-gov't supply of PPS weed- Pretty Pathetic Shit!!
-growing issues - sexing seeds/time, moms, babies- next crops, cloning,
-cost of producing medication our gov't should be supplying us
-tax write offs
-personal security issues - new inspection team comes in 4 vehicles, RCMP fire , township- lets every freakin person on your street know you grow
- home invasions by freaks
-ignorance of MOST RCMP, city officials, on our MMAR legal rights - ''you can carry over 1/2 pound of dope on you in Canada WTF'' said by RCMP to me
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i can get really trivial here, and make a list forever,,, with all the crap we face as MMAR exemptees

anyone else have some issues to add to this list?? please do!!!

cheers
bobbyD

[zigzag1a]

good to hear that yours shows no apparent signs of a chip.
hopefully mine shows up the same. this is quite an interesting developement.

I just got my card today and there is no bump in mine. Guess they already know all they want to know about me LOL

Marco

[carl]

i am giving my license back and telling them to shove it youknowwhere
i will probably end up in jail over it, but they made me wait 10 weeks for my renewal without a license . while i was waiting, they said i was obligated to destroy all my plants and throw away all my cured bud

[BUSH HATER!]

they made me wait 10 weeks for my renewal without a license . while i was waiting, they said i was obligated to destroy all my plants and throw away all my cured bud

This is cruel and inhumane! Everyone knows that stress kills people. How much stress were you under for those 10 weeks, knowing that they could send the cops over at any time? As if a medical user, who is already sick, needs this piled on too!

Just thinking off the top of my head here, but I bet if you talk to every licensed cannabis user you would come up with at least one story by each of them where they got screwed over by HELLth Canada. What if all this information was compiled, and put into a class action lawsuit?

Just a thought. It REALLY pisses me off to see sick people abused by our fkd up system!

d

[zigzag1a]

we are trying right now to organize xmt's into a union of sorts to protect our rights. problem at this point seems to be some kind of competition between forums and med sites. this person dos'nt want to support that person and blah blah and petty jelousies getting between what we should be doing and what is actually getting accomplished. if we can't even co-operate at this point we're doomed.

[BUSH HATER!]

we are trying right now to organize xmt's into a union of sorts to protect our rights. problem at this point seems to be some kind of competition between forums and med sites. this person dos'nt want to support that person and blah blah and petty jelousies getting between what we should be doing and what is actually getting accomplished. if we can't even co-operate at this point we're doomed.

Ya.. I hear you there. If we could find a way to rise above this shit and work together... well... if we could do that we wouldn't need to have this conversation because cannabis would have been legalized YEARS ago! There are about 6 million users in this country, and about 1 million of them are admitted medical users. I believe that every single cannabis user is a medical user, they just don't know it yet. If they come home from a long day at work, and smoke a joint to relax, they are a medical user. They are reducing their level of stress, which will benefit their health and well being.

I wish I knew what the answer is here. There must be something more to this... something behind the scenes going on with fake activists who are government plants... there to start problems, and feed into the already existing issues until they blow up. I think we are being deliberately divided so we conquer ourselves. Then the feds can just pick us off.

[Marco Renda]

we are trying right now to organize xmt's into a union of sorts to protect our rights. problem at this point seems to be some kind of competition between forums and med sites. this person dos'nt want to support that person and blah blah and petty jelousies getting between what we should be doing and what is actually getting accomplished. if we can't even co-operate at this point we're doomed.

TY has worked and continues to work with pretty much every mj website out there. Well there is at least 1 that TY will never work with and that is CC and it's owner Marc Emery

Take Care and Peace
Marco

[carl]

we are trying right now to organize xmt's into a union of sorts to protect our rights. problem at this point seems to be some kind of competition between forums and med sites. this person dos'nt want to support that person and blah blah and petty jelousies getting between what we should be doing and what is actually getting accomplished. if we can't even co-operate at this point we're doomed.

one thing i know for sure is that i am being oppressed and i don't like it

[Neal]

Great, if the struggle to get legal isn't enough, they make it worse when you are. Maybe I should give up while I am ahead.

[carl]

Great, if the struggle to get legal isn't enough, they make it worse when you are. Maybe I should give up while I am ahead.

i think generally if you have the support of your doctors then you are going to be okay as long as you don't get carried away with the numbers

[Neal]

"the numbers"?

[speakrsrfun]

My Doctors won't resign for my renewal and Health Canada is the reason why. They tell me that the practice will no longer find it morally correct to give someone non tested measures of medication, yet they have no issues pawning off whatever pharmaceutical pill they can fire at me. I for one say SCREW YOU health Canada, you'll have to pry the bong out of my dead cold hands before I give up my meds, and that day isn't coming anytime soon, I hope.... We have to stand together on this one, and I for one have had enough of all the bureaucratic non socialist mumbo jumbo that’s been thrown at us sick people. We're not dead we're sick, and they are going to start to understand that soon, if not for us what are the future generations going to have to deal with in regards to this area.... Makes me ill to think they (health Canada) are less compassionate than some USA states...... yeah 1700+ exemptee's in Canada with 38 million in Canada, and in California alone they have well over 100,000 exempt with a population of almost 39 million, real compassionate county we have huh...., Peace and keep well.

Speaks

[carl]

the plant numbers

[carl]

you have got that right speaks. send it to the editor man. newspapers love that "cold dead hands" stuff.

My Doctors won't resign for my renewal and Health Canada is the reason why. They tell me that the practice will no longer find it morally correct to give someone non tested measures of medication, yet they have no issues pawning off whatever pharmaceutical pill they can fire at me. I for one say SCREW YOU health Canada, you'll have to pry the bong out of my dead cold hands before I give up my meds, and that day isn't coming anytime soon, I hope.... We have to stand together on this one, and I for one have had enough of all the bureaucratic non socialist mumbo jumbo that’s been thrown at us sick people. We're not dead we're sick, and they are going to start to understand that soon, if not for us what are the future generations going to have to deal with in regards to this area.... Makes me ill to think they (health Canada) are less compassionate than some USA states...... yeah 1700+ exemptee's in Canada with 38 million in Canada, and in California alone they have well over 100,000 exempt with a population of almost 39 million, real compassionate county we have huh...., Peace and keep well.

[BUSH HATER!]

Would this work? What if we run a website, designed for a single purpose, to shine a bright light on what is being done to everyone. If the website is organized in such a way that people can enter in their information into a somewhat standardized format, we could collect case histories from every exemptee in one section, and non-exemptees who are medical users in another section. Each person could talk about what condition they have, how cannabis helps them, what else they have tried, what HELLth Canada has done to them, etc, etc... Once enough people get behind a website like that I think it would be pretty hard to ignore. I think this would embarass the HELL out of HELLth Canada!

I'm willing to work on this if it is something we can brainstorm, and believe it will make a difference. I do website development, and have friends who do too. What do you think?

d

[speakrsrfun]

I'm in for whatever time I can spare, I'm a Graphic Designer with years of web experience so I'll be willing to pitch in, I'm just sick of being sick and tired of all this shite we go through to stay well. I haven't had a seizure during the day since I stopped taking my prescribed meds and started smoking more, lets just say I KNOW IT WORKS....... Lets get the ball rolling Twist A Spliff...., Peace and keep well.

Speaks

Would this work? What if we run a website, designed for a single purpose, to shine a bright light on what is being done to everyone. If the website is organized in such a way that people can enter in their information into a somewhat standardized format, we could collect case histories from every exemptee in one section, and non-exemptees who are medical users in another section. Each person could talk about what condition they have, how cannabis helps them, what else they have tried, what HELLth Canada has done to them, etc, etc... Once enough people get behind a website like that I think it would be pretty hard to ignore. I think this would embarass the HELL out of HELLth Canada!

I'm willing to work on this if it is something we can brainstorm, and believe it will make a difference. I do website development, and have friends who do too. What do you think?

d

[BUSH HATER!]

I'm in for whatever time I can spare, I'm a Graphic Designer with years of web experience so I'll be willing to pitch in, I'm just sick of being sick and tired of all this shite we go through to stay well. I haven't had a seizure during the day since I stopped taking my prescribed meds and started smoking more, lets just say I KNOW IT WORKS....... Lets get the ball rolling Twist A Spliff...., Peace and keep well.

Speaks

Sounds good. Lets bounce this around a bit, and see if anyone can blow holes through the idea. In the meantime, we can think up a domain name to use. I have some credits available to add another domain name to my enom.com account, so we're all set there. Lets see what kind of ideas we can brainstorm. This would not take much effort at all to get up and running. With a few thousand personal accounts of the benefits of cannabis, and lots of abuses at the hands of HELLth Canada and the cops, I think this would get noticed real fast.

Anyone else have something to add here?

d