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    Justice Minister Irwin Cotler says he hopes both his government's same-sex marriage and marijuana decriminalization bills will become law soon -- but suggested that was up to the opposition parties.

    But, "I'm not sure because with this Parliament you can't be too sure about many things, particularly in a minority government situation," he told CTV's Question Period on Sunday.

    Noting the poisonous mood that tainted Parliament before the May 20 budget vote, Cotler said, "When we return tomorrow, we'll see whether we'll have a more civil atmosphere."

    While the NDP and Bloc Quebecois generally support Bill C-38, the legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage, the Conservative Party strongly opposes it.

    The bill has survived first and second reading votes and is now in committee.

    "I'm hoping that the committee would appreciate that this is not something that we're looking at for the first time," Cotler said, nothing a prior committee heard from 300 witnesses in 2003.

    "I hope what we can have is democratic discussion but not filibustering and thereby, you know, obstructing," he said.

    "Canadians have declared themselves, Parliament has declared themselves, the courts have declared themselves. I think we have to move forward."

    Cotler hoped the bill would pass before Parliament adjourns on June 23.

    He also said, in response to a question, the government had not lost its nerve on the marijuana decriminalization legislation.

    "People talk about decriminalization, they figure we legalized marijuana," he said.

    "We have to make it clear we're talking about an alternate penalties framework. We don't want to criminalize a younger generation, but marijuana use, small amounts for personal use, still remains illegal."

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    Are there any bills currently tabled to change the marijuana laws, or is Cotler just supporting the idea of changing the laws?

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    The MJ bill would make possession of up to 15 grams of pot punishable by fines ranging between $100 and $250 for youths and $150 to $400 for adults.

    According to government officials, the bill would make the following changes to Canada's pot laws:

    * Possession of 15 grams becomes a "contravention" punishable only by a fine.

    * Possession of 15 to 30 grams may be charged as either a contravention or a criminal offense at the discretion of the officer involved.

    * Penalties are lowered for the cultivation of three or fewer plants to a maximum of 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. Under current law, all cultivation is punishable by up to seven years in prison.

    * Penalties are lowered for the cultivation of four to 25 plants to a maximum of 18 months and a $25,000 fine, but prosecutors have the option of charging cultivation in this range as an "indictable offense" (similar to a felony) punishable by up to five years in prison. Because the penalty is less than five years no jury trial is allowed.

    * Penalties are increased for the cultivation of more than 25 plants. For 26-50 plants, the penalty is a maximum of 10 years in prison, plus fines, and for more than 50 plants, 14 years in prison, plus substantial fines.

    * Penalties for trafficking remain unchanged.

    * There are no provisions regarding medical marijuana.

    The budget did pass third reading last night.

    The other two bills are in commitee and same sex should be legalised next week.

    I guess the MMJ movement needs to become at least as organised as same sex.

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    http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/2/parlbus/c.../C-38TOCE.html

    BILL C-38
    An Act to amend the Contraventions Act and the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act

    The enactment amends the Contraventions Act to allow for the designation of certain criminal offences as contraventions and to specify that contraventions may be prosecuted by means of either a summons or ticket unless another Act of Parliament provides otherwise.

    The enactment also amends the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act to create offences with respect to the possession of small amounts of cannabis (marihuana) and the production of cannabis (marihuana).


    This Bill died but was resurrected as C-17 and C-16.

    It's difficult to find out much about it, I'm sure that's not an accident.

    Funny thing is:Bill C-38 is now the Same Sex Marriage Act.

    http://www.cfdp.ca/mj2003.htm

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Bills_H...=38&Ses=1#C-17
    Last edited by dgbaker; 06-24-2005 at 08:55 PM.

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